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    Harmonic dampener getting wobbly and the only replacement for the one piece design on my 03 is a factory replacement.
    But I assume I can use a two piece design from earlier years?
    If that is correct what's a good dampener I can get with removable weights that I can transfer over to my internally balanced 408 in the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGROB View Post
    Harmonic dampener getting wobbly and the only replacement for the one piece design on my 03 is a factory replacement.
    But I assume I can use a two piece design from earlier years?
    If that is correct what's a good dampener I can get with removable weights that I can transfer over to my internally balanced 408 in the future?
    I'm using the inexpensive Summit SFI Balancer on mine. I went internally balanced as well - so they just unbolted the counterweight portion and balanced the assembly that way.
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    Like this one, correct?
    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/p...003/make/dodge

    One like that and use pre 2000 bolt on crank pulley?

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    I used one that looks like this:
    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-c4265/overview/

    But I don't see one specifically for the 5.9 Magnum at this point.
    They used to have one.
    It is the shiny Summit SFI balancer though.
    Not a black one.
    It is on my '99 so it used the bolt on crank pulley.



    You could probably get by with a non-sfi one anyway.
    I've only had it checked for the SFI sticker exactly once - by a "new" guy in tech.
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    This one is lists Magnums under applications. And it's SFI rated.
    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pfs-90012/overview/

    I don't need the SFI rating but the fact that its built better and passes certification is good with me.

    I think try this one. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duner View Post
    I used one that looks like this:
    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-c4265/overview/

    But I don't see one specifically for the 5.9 Magnum at this point.
    They used to have one.
    It is the shiny Summit SFI balancer though.
    Not a black one.
    It is on my '99 so it used the bolt on crank pulley.



    You could probably get by with a non-sfi one anyway.
    I've only had it checked for the SFI sticker exactly once - by a "new" guy in tech.
    Do yourself a favor and throw that thing in the trash! I had one and after a year the outer shell started turning under and after replacing the ignition box, pick-up coil and distributor parts I finally figured it out. ATI! or innovators west for a race style balancer or a dayco from rockauto for a stock replacement.
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    ATI and Innovators West have internal balanced only. But I could just use a stock replacement until my 408 is ready, hell its only 40 bucks.
    But I see now that the one piece balancer supersede all the two piece designs so finding a stock bolt on pulley s proving difficult. I don't want no under drive crap so I guess I need to scrounge a bone yard pulley.

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    I just got a Rockauto stock replacement. Cheap and it works fine.
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    Only cuz I'm SUPER lazy, part # for internal balance 408, ATI or innovators West would be super helpful. And thanks for anybody that help keep me lazy

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    Thank u good sir

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    No problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slammedR/T View Post
    Do yourself a favor and throw that thing in the trash! I had one and after a year the outer shell started turning under and after replacing the ignition box, pick-up coil and distributor parts I finally figured it out. ATI! or innovators west for a race style balancer or a dayco from rockauto for a stock replacement.
    Chad, what was the truck doing to prompt you to change ignition parts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikset View Post
    Chad, what was the truck doing to prompt you to change ignition parts?
    Running?
    Oh wait....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikset View Post
    Chad, what was the truck doing to prompt you to change ignition parts?
    Timing kept moving and backfiring, never thought the sfi balancer would be moving.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adobedude View Post
    Running?
    Oh wait....
    How is that camshaft working out
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitroram33 View Post
    Man that is a nice piece.
    I just shipped back my Msd crank trigger and I'm ordering one

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    Quote Originally Posted by krs1r/t View Post
    Man that is a nice piece.
    I just shipped back my Msd crank trigger and I'm ordering one
    I plan on running an IW on mine too, makes crank timing with MSPro a lot more straight forward.

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    I got a smoking deal on an ATI balancer and MSD crank trigger, but next time I need to replace the balancer I will get an Innovators West with crank trigger outer shell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitroram33 View Post
    I plan on running an IW on mine too, makes crank timing with MSPro a lot more straight forward.
    what's the advantage of the IW one vs mounting the trigger wheel from DIY autotune?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Osee View Post
    what's the advantage of the IW one vs mounting the trigger wheel from DIY autotune?
    DIY autotune is not for a crank trigger for an MSD ignition, it is for using a crank sensor, big difference bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osee View Post
    what's the advantage of the IW one vs mounting the trigger wheel from DIY autotune?
    No need to deal with mounting the trigger wheel, the magnets are in the damper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slammedR/T View Post
    DIY autotune is not for a crank trigger for an MSD ignition, it is for using a crank sensor, big difference bud.
    In nitroram's comment he was referring to MSPro


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    Quote Originally Posted by nitroram33 View Post
    No need to deal with mounting the trigger wheel, the magnets are in the damper.

    gotcha, is it just a 4 magnet deal?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Osee View Post
    gotcha, is it just a 4 magnet deal?
    Yeah, 4 magnets made into the damper instead of a separate wheel like the MSD setup.

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