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    Quote Originally Posted by grapejuice1998 View Post
    Bear with me, we're almost home. lol

    So, what about that white plastic fixture that holds the U shaped filter? (the one the pump mounts in) Chuck the whole deal?

    If so, what holds the new pump into the basket?
    yeah chuck it.

    that middle piece of the basket will hold it down once you snap it back into place
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    Well, that was a pain in the ....everything.

    Tomorrow I'll try to clean the tank out and reinstall the pump.

    Fingers crossed it works!!
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    Well, I guess I did everything right. Its starts and runs.


    Danno; did you happen to try to start your truck? I didn't hear mine running either, but apparently it was.
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    Congrats
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    Oh yeah,

    Cranked and cranked and cranked... not even any pressure at the rail I even had my head down by the tank and had Ginn turn the key on... still no bueno.

    Glad yours worked!

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    The newest walbros aren't that loud. The only time I hear the one in my neon is when the tank is so low the bucket doesn't stay filled, I can hear it filling the bucket. The truck has an old holley high pressure 255, and that thing is pretty loud.

    Danno- what pump did you get that was a dud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five9Dak View Post
    The newest walbros aren't that loud. The only time I hear the one in my neon is when the tank is so low the bucket doesn't stay filled, I can hear it filling the bucket. The truck has an old holley high pressure 255, and that thing is pretty loud.

    Danno- what pump did you get that was a dud?
    Mine is about 2x more quiet than the stock pump was! (or more)

    I couldn't hear it pump up at all, even with the bed off.
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    If the stocker was that noisy, I'm not surprised you had issues with it holding pressure. That new one should be solid for you, until you outflow the regulator.

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    I never thought of the stock one as noisy. That was the shocking part of this one being so quiet.
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    Glad you got it worked out, Alan.

    Did you have to break anything during the install? I'm just curious, if I ever do this to my truck I would be reluctant to break anything to make it work. I'm just not a hammers-n-duct tape kind of mechanic.

    It looked like with Bryan's instructions and your pics that everything came apart as designed (even if it wasn't easy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyotech_cuda440 View Post
    Glad you got it worked out, Alan.

    Did you have to break anything during the install? I'm just curious, if I ever do this to my truck I would be reluctant to break anything to make it work. I'm just not a hammers-n-duct tape kind of mechanic.

    It looked like with Bryan's instructions and your pics that everything came apart as designed (even if it wasn't easy)
    I ended up removing one of the two little nubbs that hang the catch in that sender wire sleeve. Believe me though, one nubb/operational catch is sufficient. I had to take it apart two more times while I was trying to figure out how to securely mount the pump. It wasn't easy to get loose, but it also wasn't difficult-to-impossible, like it is with both catches working.
    I also reused the stock square sock filter. It snapped right onto the bottom, so why not?
    Other than that, no. Nothing broken, but there were pieces discarded that I would have liked to keep. Like that U shaped filter. If I could have sourced a replacement, I would have put that part back in. It also holds the pump more securely. It's in there well enough that I feel OK about it though.
    I don't duct tape or bailing wire shit either....unless I have to, to get home. lol.
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    Thanks for everyone who added to this thread. I just did the pump in my truck and it worked out perfectly! Grapejuice, thanks for asking all of the questions that i had as well haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksrt View Post
    Thanks for everyone who added to this thread. I just did the pump in my truck and it worked out perfectly! Grapejuice, thanks for asking all of the questions that i had as well haha.
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    wouldnt it be easier to run an external pump...this sound like a complete pain in the ^$$ to try and figure out
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    Back from the dead. Has anyone established what pump is best?


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    Part your red sport out and buy a gen 2. Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick 660r View Post
    Back from the dead. Has anyone established what pump is best?
    I haven't ran it yet Joe but I'm setting up the AEM 340 LPH in my stock tank. That's what Jason Thompson ran and what Kingster is running currently. There is a write up on the install in the FAQ forum. The pump is cheap as well.
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    I couldn't find it


    Quote Originally Posted by BluRT00 View Post
    Part your red sport out and buy a gen 2. Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick 660r View Post
    I couldn't find it
    Probably because I gave you the wrong sub forum. Sorry about that. http://dakotart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23681

    I have part numbers as well if you need them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Branx5.9 View Post
    Probably because I gave you the wrong sub forum. Sorry about that. http://dakotart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23681

    I have part numbers as well if you need them.
    Part numbers would be great. I've found 2 349lph aem pumps but can't see the difference other than the price.


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    I went with the E-85 version of the AEM pump. Hopefully I can get it installed within the next couple weeks. Hopefully I can find the plug to the pump since I cut it off when I put the fuel cell in.


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    Part your red sport out and buy a gen 2. Problem solved.

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    Do you discard the filter on the side of the pump and that's it?
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    And the clamp you remove from the inlet of the pump, do you just replace with a hose clamp?
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    12.90 at 104mph

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    So you don't remove the metal ring on the bottom of the pump correct? In order to reuse the factory sock.

    Also I assume you remove the grommet in the bottom if the bucket as well? There's like an .5-3/4inch between the bottom of the pump and the bucket bottom, does the hard line just good the pump up?
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    12.90 at 104mph

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    Bumping this old ass thread to see if there's any info about upgrading an 01+ truck. Everything I'm able to find references pre-01's and I have an 03.
    It appears that the fuel pumps are different and I'm trying to figure what those differences are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jweltch View Post
    Bumping this old ass thread to see if there's any info about upgrading an 01+ truck. Everything I'm able to find references pre-01's and I have an 03.
    It appears that the fuel pumps are different and I'm trying to figure what those differences are.
    Hey, Jason. I'm going to try this kit from Quantum Fuel Systems. It's also listed on their website for slightly more $ but no applications. This eBay auction shows 2003 5.9L as a correct fit. Looking on RockAuto the same drop in fuel pump canister is the same for 1999 and 2003 5.9L. I just can't for the life of me figure out what the curved filter and side nipple on the pump do. Most replacement pumps (not the whole canister) do not have this side nipple that I see on Alan's pics.

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