I'm curious how the software is going to be out of date in a year, when our pcm's aren't changing? It's not like they're still making our trucks and Chrysler is changing the code. So I don't see how anything is going to become outdated. Just wondering. Like any new software I'm sure there have been bugs to work out, but I think that SCT will be the way to go for us. I like that there is no wiring involved and no CELs, which you can't avoid with a standalone.
I also curious about the limitations of the stock pcm, if there are any? Maybe Sean can shed some light on that, if there's anything he's encountered that the SCT software can't handle.
I know Marty has documented some gains, even on a mild setup, over a flash. And to me, it's more than just peak gains, gotta look at overall tunability. I'm gonna be running a big ass cam, 262/270 @ .050, a flash can't handle that, and if it could, it would take more tries than it's worth. I know Marty has already run a 240ish cam with the SCT software, so I'm hoping that it will be able to handle my setup, we'll find out come April/May timeframe.
Bump for subscription. I'm looking to buy two hand helds and/or two PRP's here sometime this year.
I'm interested as well and my truck needs this, but I'm getting DSMlink first and foremost
Ok have a couple questions for ya. I know they are using plug-n-play 2 bar map sensors with sct for boosted application, but could you tell me how that is working with the stock computer? Are you changing the voltage values with the sct? Also when you are doing the tune through e-mail are you starting with a(for lack of better words) canned flash. Then tuning off a dyno or datalog from a wideband?
Troy
I've never heard of the software being obsolete. It's been around for years for Chevy and Ford and with the $$$$$ SCT has put into the Dodge market I don't see it going anywhere. They have started off with the basic engine management tables. There is a TON of stuff missing but things are added weekly to the pcm tables as we find stuff that we want. It's not a fast process though. Especially since they are working on hemi releases.
The SCT software provides full pcm editing. On a side note, there are tables not avail yet. Tire size changing for instance. It's just a table that SCT techs need to find and present to us in the pretty gui front end which takes some time on their side. And as I said above, they present engine management first and will get back to "features" on the next go around. The only limitations I've come across were not having a table in the software for something. And it can get added....but....time....lol.
A 262/270 cam will be tough. The only thing I see giving you a fit is the idle when coming to a stop. You'll probably have to do some adjusting on the IAC. SCT can do a good bit in stepping down the tb plate but you'll probably have to crack that bad boy open a little manually.
Each tuner from SCT is completely blank. We have to build each program from scratch. f/i is tricky and takes time to write via mail order. The first few attempts just gets things driving correctly. So the base is like tuning n/a and some fuel vamping in boosted areas is put in. A wideband is nice to get data from. There is a key on map problem that will occur every few cranks. SCT has to add some specific tables in the program to allow us to change that error check for map voltage.
Relays and fuses are good, but removed since I couldn't get rid of the light and I don't use the stock e-fan wiring. Comes on at key on before the engine is even started. I run an aftermarket SPAL unit with SPAL-PWM controller so don't care about the factory e-fan functions. If the motor is cold, I can clear the code with key on/engine off using my digimoto software and it will stay off as long as I don't turn the truck back off. But if the engine is warm, it doesn't matter if I clear the code or not it comes back on as soon as I start the truck. It's the 1491 shorted or open condition in the e-fan circuitry. I've swapped in a known good PCM with no change.
Also, for some reason, my digimoto software won't communicate with the sensors anymore with the truck running. I've used it with no problems before. Only thing that changed is I re-wired/routed my MSD 6AL to clean up the wiring. All the wires stayed the same, I just re-routed them to be cleaner. Maybe the way I re-routed the wires is interfering with the signals from the PCM to the OBDII port??
Last edited by hskr; 02-05-2008 at 07:23 PM.
I see alot of talk about the SCT tuner, how many of us are getting ready to buy one? Is there any chance of getting group buy together?
Engine Mods: M-1 intake,Hughes billet TB MOPAR performance valve covers, Taylor Spiro -Pro wires, 160 Deg t. stat, Gibson headers, Open exhaust, Kenne Bell Super Charger, 40 Lb. Viper injectors, K&N Air Hat, SCT tunned
A question has come up and hopefully you can help.
If you bought a PRP and you loaded the software onto a laptop, BUT, that's all you ever did. The hand held tuner was never hooked up. Can that package be sold and used by someone else, or does it have to have a new security dongle?
Alan Short
D.R.T.C. #15
Alan,
Could you consider using this picture instead? The one you currently have takes up just about an entire screen on my lap top. I eliminated some of the blank space for you
'99 R/T- MSIIextra fuel/spark/idle, ZCP mx422 supercharged, ZCP Tbrake 727, PPC 10" 3800, 4.10, (\/) Headers, 2.5" Duals, Truetrac, Boyd Timeless 6's, Hotchkis TVS.
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[QUOTE=Five9Dak;5921]Alan,
Could you consider using this picture instead? The one you currently have takes up just about an entire screen on my lap top. I eliminated some of the blank space for you
Sure thing, howzat look?
Alan Short
D.R.T.C. #15
Engine Mods: M-1 intake,Hughes billet TB MOPAR performance valve covers, Taylor Spiro -Pro wires, 160 Deg t. stat, Gibson headers, Open exhaust, Kenne Bell Super Charger, 40 Lb. Viper injectors, K&N Air Hat, SCT tunned
well if he goes for the GB we have 3 committed so far!!!
I will email him. He might not have email alerts on.
Mike
DRTC member #995
03 Black rc R/T 1 of 265
Best 1/4 13.98 @ 96mph
Mods: Sct tune, M1, 1.7rr's, 52mm f&b, Fipk, Msd ignition, viper fan, 4.56's, Spintech headers and true duals no cats.
Its a no go on a GB from Hemifeaver, here is what he had to say:
"get so screwed on group buys. lol. I did a gb to get the tuners out there a while back and charged $499 + s/h which was $515. Now I charge $569 shipped n/a and $599 f/i. After this month it goes up to $599 for n/a engines and $639 for f/i. I've got at least 10 hours in a dudes f/i tune getting his pcm controlling the blower mgmt. If I didn't have to put so much of my personal time in writing the tunes I'd do one in a heart beat."
Any one else have nay ideas or contacts?
Engine Mods: M-1 intake,Hughes billet TB MOPAR performance valve covers, Taylor Spiro -Pro wires, 160 Deg t. stat, Gibson headers, Open exhaust, Kenne Bell Super Charger, 40 Lb. Viper injectors, K&N Air Hat, SCT tunned