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kidkrawler
03-28-2010, 06:45 PM
I have my LM2 installed, it logs everything I am telling it to log I have all of the channels and what nots picked, except RPM. The readout shows the RPM, but when I pull up the log file the RPM is flat lined. I am stressed out, need to be tuned by Tuesday and this LM@ has no online support and the instructions are useless. Anyone help me out?

kidkrawler
03-28-2010, 06:47 PM
I tried to attach my log files, it says invalid type and wont attach.

Intense RT
03-28-2010, 07:26 PM
You have to set it up in the software too. Connect a laptop to the LM2 and pick the channels basically. You have to read the instructions for full details. Other than that...I wouldn't be sure why.

User
03-28-2010, 08:15 PM
When you get tired of it, sell it to me ive been wanting one for awhile.

BryanRT360
03-28-2010, 08:26 PM
I have my LM2 installed, it logs everything I am telling it to log I have all of the channels and what nots picked, except RPM. The readout shows the RPM, but when I pull up the log file the RPM is flat lined. I am stressed out, need to be tuned by Tuesday and this LM@ has no online support and the instructions are useless. Anyone help me out?

when your in the logworks program. have you configured all you channels?

BryanRT360
03-28-2010, 08:33 PM
this is what I do:

take the SD card out of lm2. Stick it into SD card reader, than usb port..

open logworks program (brings you to screen with all the gauges)

click file on top, scroll down to import file. find the file you want to import(listed as date)

I than configure the 5 channels I have set up. when the imported file pops up, click on the channels tab. than channel conf. wizard. than set all your values. hit appy, than ok and all should be good.

emwhiteR/T
03-28-2010, 09:25 PM
when your in the logworks program. have you configured all you channels?

This sounds like the issue.

Intense RT
03-29-2010, 12:11 AM
when your in the logworks program. have you configured all you channels?"configure"..yep, that what it is:biggthumpup:

Been a while since I messed with it and it seems I have to read the instructions every time.:D

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 01:51 AM
K, I now see the rpm values on the left side of the screen but the black line for rpm is flat lined across the bottom. I have it logging, rpm, o2, tps, map, iat and spark advance. They all show up fine on the lof files except for rpm.

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 01:54 AM
Also when I do the playback and watch the gauges as it occurs the rpm gauge never moves, everything else works fine.

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 02:04 AM
how did you set the protocol on the lm2? I chose automatic( i think its the first choice)

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 03:26 AM
Well if I can not get it to work tomorrow I will go to the dyno. And sell this thing.

Here is exactly what I did:
1- Installed the Logworks program onto a pc
2 - Connected the LM2 itself and let it install
3 - Installed the wideband O2
4 - Found an SD card that worked
5 - Went into the auto configure on the LM2 and picked what I wanted on each channel and set the priority, selected rpm then TPS then MAP then Spark Advance and finally ECT
6 - Connected the LM2 to the cig lighter and configured the O2
7 - Fired up the rig, saw the wideband start to read and then connected the obd2 plu
8 - sit on an empty street, hit record and let her rip, get through 2nd and stop the recording
9 - Pulled the file off, put it into the logworks program

On the hand held I see everything, rpm, wide band, tps, map etc. On my data log I see them all except rpm, it is flat lined across the bottom. Can I email my log file to someone? Every time I try and connect the LM2 directly to the logworks program it says no serial port available. I can only see my log on the playback on the hand held or after I transfer it off the sd card and load it. It is like Innovate half assed the software when they went from the 1 to the 2. This thing is overly complicated imo.

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 03:36 AM
send me the file. Btschroer@comcast.net

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 04:18 AM
Sent that

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 04:35 AM
list in order what you record.

do you have the rpm in the lm2 on or off? reason i ask is if you have it on it might fuck up the game, because thats for the when you use a clamp on the plug wire not obd2. not sure if that will mess with it though...

Intense RT
03-29-2010, 04:43 AM
May have installed logworks but didn't see it listed that you set the channels up there. I wish I had it with me. There's a box with drop down menus for each parameter and I think in the same order of priority as on the LM2 itself. You have to scroll down the drop menu to each parameter to setup what is logged and in what order...again, if memory serves.

It's not bad if you do it over and over again, but it's not that bad. Can be confusing and complicated at first. I change things so rarely, like I said, I have to read the instructions each time I do make a change in the list.

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 04:48 AM
May have installed logworks but didn't see it listed that you set the channels up there. I wish I had it with me. There's a box with drop down menus for each parameter and I think in the same order of priority as on the LM2 itself. You have to scroll down the drop menu to each parameter to setup what is logged and in what order...again, if memory serves.

i got his file.. looks like he has the the RPM on the LM2 turned on. when I go to configure that channel there are no options to change what it is. I'll bet thats the deal.. its recording nothing because he doesn't have an inductive clamp hooked up. I think it cancels the obd2 rpm reading

Intense RT
03-29-2010, 05:18 AM
i got his file.. looks like he has the the RPM on the LM2 turned on. when I go to configure that channel there are no options to change what it is. I'll bet thats the deal.. its recording nothing because he doesn't have an inductive clamp hooked up. I think it cancels the obd2 rpm readingDefinitely worth a try in changing something there. I have a faint memory of what you're talking about.

What I was talking about earlier...remember the screen with the different colored boxes that you can change the parameter recorded and voltage settings? I remember another one where there is like 8? or so drop down menus with a place to check a box out to the side. What was that?

I'm outta state and don't have anything with me to check.

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 02:06 PM
On the LM2 I went into the rpm option and did turn it on, because the first time I tried to log there was no RPM. I thought turning it on would fix it, but you are thinking that having the RPM turned on somehow overrides the OBD2 rpm output and makes the logger look for the inductive pickup?

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 02:41 PM
On the LM2 I went into the rpm option and did turn it on, because the first time I tried to log there was no RPM. I thought turning it on would fix it, but you are thinking that having the RPM turned on somehow overrides the OBD2 rpm output and makes the logger look for the inductive pickup?

exactly. try that, see if it works.

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 02:46 PM
Found This:

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...&highlight=rpm

Maybe the same?

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 02:55 PM
Found This:

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...&highlight=rpm

Maybe the same?

dont know what the fuck your talking about.

take the lm2

turn off the rpm function.

start truck

plug in obd2 port

wait till the obd2 values pop up

hit record. blip the throttle.

load into log works, set all the channels.

any problems send me that file... list in order all that your recording...

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 03:00 PM
What the hell is wrong with their site:

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12028&highlight=rpm

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 03:04 PM
yup easy fix... so do it...:nana:

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 03:06 PM
I appreciate all of your help, I will stop by for lunch and try again, hopefully I am loaded up on a trailer tomorrow night heading for Moab. The first tune I got from Sean runs alot better then the one he just sent me so the data from the LM2 would be very helpful. I will report back this afternoon.

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 07:13 PM
OK, you guys are freaking sweet, I turned that rpm enable thing the other way and I know see rpm. However the scale seems off. I emailed you the new files, tell me what you think besides the fact that I am really rich!!!

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 07:25 PM
time LM_2_O2 LM_2_OBD1
(sec) (AFR) (RPM)

0.40960 13.73 930
0.49152 13.83 940
0.57344 13.80 950
0.65536 13.73 960
0.73728 13.76 960
0.81920 13.97 950
0.90112 13.88 950
0.98304 13.77 950
1.06496 13.76 950
1.14688 13.77 950
1.22880 13.83 940
1.31072 13.94 930
1.39264 13.77 910
1.47456 13.79 890
1.55648 13.94 930
1.63840 14.08 970
1.72032 13.83 970
1.80224 13.67 970
1.88416 13.52 1000
1.96608 12.80 1020
2.04800 12.77 1100
2.12992 12.07 1180
2.21184 11.94 1220
2.29376 11.94 1260
2.37568 11.76 1290
2.45760 11.79 1310
2.53952 11.88 1310
2.62144 12.04 1310
2.70336 12.39 1410
2.78528 12.77 1500
2.86720 12.82 1530
2.94912 12.74 1550
3.03104 12.54 1630
3.11296 12.35 1710
3.19488 12.30 1730
3.27680 12.17 1740
3.35872 11.89 1740
3.44064 11.50 1740
3.52256 11.66 1910
3.60448 11.80 2080
3.68640 11.89 2220
3.76832 12.01 2350
3.85024 11.79 2480
3.93216 11.29 2600
4.01408 11.26 2690
4.09600 11.23 2780
4.17792 11.07 2780
4.25984 10.95 2780
4.34176 10.82 2870
4.42368 10.80 2950
4.50560 10.82 3010
4.58752 10.80 3070
4.66944 10.85 3140
4.75136 11.14 3210
4.83328 11.98 3860
4.91520 10.98 4500
4.99712 11.45 4500
5.07904 11.82 4500
5.16096 13.30 4800
5.24288 15.08 5090
5.32480 16.49 4680
5.40672 16.55 4270
5.48864 16.39 3910
5.57056 16.64 3540
5.65248 17.27 3230
5.73440 17.64 2910
5.81632 18.54 2630
5.89824 19.24 2350
5.98016 20.39 2350
6.06208 20.95 2350
6.14400 21.52 2120
6.22592 21.90 1880
6.30784 21.79 1680
6.38976 22.09 1480
6.47168 22.15 1310
6.55360 22.11 1130
6.63552 22.36 1000
6.71744 21.99 870
6.79936 21.92 870
6.88128 22.14 870
6.96320 21.87 720
7.04512 20.74 560
7.12704 19.60 490
7.20896 18.98 420
7.29088 18.39 390
7.37280 17.05 360
7.45472 15.46 490
7.53664 14.89 610
7.61856 14.13 610
7.70048 13.74 610
7.78240 13.14 610
7.86432 12.92 600
7.94624 12.72 650
8.02816 12.39 690
8.11008 12.27 730
8.19200 12.27 770
8.27392 12.25 660
8.35584 12.26 540
8.43776 12.19 540
8.51968 12.39 540
8.60160 12.57 550
8.68352 12.64 560
8.76544 12.44 670
8.84736 12.17 780
8.92928 12.04 860
9.01120 11.89 940
9.09312 11.86 920
9.17504 11.94 900
9.25696 12.33 900
9.33888 12.63 900
9.42080 12.89 910
9.50272 13.02 910
9.58464 13.07 890
9.66656 12.95 860
9.74848 12.77 900
9.83040 13.04 930
9.91232 12.97 930
9.99424 12.88 920
10.07616 12.98 920
10.15808 13.20 920
10.24000 13.14 920
10.32192 13.27 920
10.40384 13.24 930
10.48576 13.27 930
10.56768 13.23 940
10.64960 13.30 940
10.73152 13.32 950
10.81344 13.38 960
10.89536 13.39 950
10.97728 13.45 940
11.05920 13.42 940
11.14112 13.32 940
11.22304 13.48 950
11.30496 13.57 950
11.38688 13.48 960
11.46880 13.45 960
11.55072 13.48 970
11.63264 13.48 970
11.71456 13.41 970
11.79648 13.45 960
11.87840 13.49 960
11.96032 13.55 960
12.04224 13.52 980
12.12416 13.47 990
12.20608 13.47 1010
12.28800 13.63 1030
12.36992 13.33 1050
12.45184 12.99 1060
12.53376 12.38 1180
12.61568 11.76 1300
12.69760 11.27 1300
12.77952 11.00 1300
12.86144 10.89 1450
12.94336 11.08 1590
13.02528 11.33 1710
13.10720 11.45 1830
13.18912 11.42 1990
13.27104 11.35 2140
13.35296 11.64 2300
13.43488 11.66 2450
13.51680 11.51 2450
13.59872 11.25 2450
13.68064 10.97 2650
13.76256 10.98 2840
13.84448 10.01 3530
13.92640 10.53 4220
14.00832 11.32 4780
14.09024 11.91 5340
14.17216 14.24 4950
14.25408 16.13 4560
14.33600 16.39 4200
14.41792 16.41 3830
14.49984 16.68 3830
14.58176 16.57 3830
14.66368 16.83 3500
14.74560 17.27 3170
14.82752 17.85 2880
14.90944 18.77 2580
14.99136 19.86 2330
15.07328 20.46 2080
15.15520 20.48 1870
15.23712 20.64 1650
15.31904 21.39 1650
15.40096 21.34 1650
15.48288 20.42 1490
15.56480 20.07 1320
15.64672 20.14 1190
15.72864 20.89 1050
15.81056 20.71 910
15.89248 20.29 770
15.97440 18.46 700
16.05632 16.70 620
16.13824 16.23 620
16.22016 15.41 620
16.30208 15.45 570
16.38400 15.36 510
16.46592 15.27 450
16.54784 15.04 390
16.62976 14.49 450
16.71168 14.05 500
16.79360 13.58 600
16.87552 13.20 690
16.95744 12.76 690
17.03936 12.48 690
17.12128 12.41 740
17.20320 12.55 790
17.28512 12.44 690
17.36704 12.45 580
17.44896 12.52 590
17.53088 12.72 600
17.61280 12.77 600
17.69472 12.80 600
17.77664 12.26 600
17.85856 12.32 600
17.94048 12.27 700
18.02240 12.13 790
18.10432 12.13 860
18.18624 12.05 920
18.26816 12.11 910
18.35008 12.16 900
18.43200 12.45 880
18.51392 12.58 850
18.59584 12.83 850
18.67776 13.01 850
18.75968 12.97 870
18.84160 12.99 890
18.92352 13.04 930
19.00544 12.99 960
19.08736 12.95 940
19.16928 12.99 920
19.25120 12.95 920
19.33312 13.11 920
19.41504 13.24 940
19.49696 13.35 950
19.57888 13.36 950
19.66080 13.44 950
19.74272 13.54 930
19.82464 13.33 900
19.90656 13.20 900
19.98848 13.42 900
20.07040 13.39 910
20.15232 13.38 920
20.23424 13.58 950
20.31616 13.48 970
20.39808 13.42 970
20.48000 13.51 970
20.56192 13.69 960
20.64384 13.57 950
20.72576 13.55 940
20.80768 13.47 930
20.88960 13.48 940
20.97152 13.57 950
21.05344 13.54 950
21.13536 13.44 940
21.21728 13.51 940
21.29920 13.60 940
21.38112 13.41 960
21.46304 13.49 970
21.54496 13.67 970
21.62688 13.69 960
21.70880 13.70 950
21.79072 13.79 940
21.87264 13.80 940
21.95456 13.76 930
22.03648 13.83 930
22.11840 13.79 930
22.20032 13.77 940
22.28224 13.83 940
22.36416 13.80 940
22.44608 13.74 930
22.52800 13.88 950
22.60992 13.92 960
22.69184 13.89 960

looks like your lean for the most part.

Did you go WOT or did you ease into it? log another file with rpm and tps for me

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 07:41 PM
also were you driving when you logged that file? almost looks like you were in park.?

can you log A/F, Rpm, Tps
go WOT in first gear through just after it shifts into 3rd

and so you dont have to di it twice might as well log MAP, timing and IAT also

kidkrawler
03-29-2010, 08:54 PM
That was in park, part of my front suspension is torn out till tonight I wanted to make sure I was logging right. Did you change anything to see the higher rpm? I thought it was only going to around 3500? I will log everything in a few hours and show it to you, thanks for the help, I'm going to have to send you a six pack!

BryanRT360
03-29-2010, 10:22 PM
glad you got it worked out.. just make sure when you log you are driving...

ADakotaRTGuy
05-28-2010, 08:52 PM
Once you configure it you don't have to do it every time?

I did 6 channels on mine

1 - TP Normal Priority
2 - Spark - Normal
3 - MAP - Normal
4 - IAT - Low
5 - ECT - Low
6 - RPM - Normal

So will I have to do it every time or am I good to go? Here is my log for about 22 seconds.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Davidsalazar03/Log.jpg

emwhiteR/T
05-29-2010, 04:47 PM
Once you configure it you don't have to do it every time?

I did 6 channels on mine

1 - TP Normal Priority
2 - Spark - Normal
3 - MAP - Normal
4 - IAT - Low
5 - ECT - Low
6 - RPM - Normal

So will I have to do it every time or am I good to go? Here is my log for about 22 seconds.

I got my configured and it remembers just fine.

I tried it on Any_R/Ts computer but it wouldn't stay recognized. Weirdness?

RJ_Hythloday
09-05-2010, 12:49 AM
Here's a LM2 question, does it only record one time? I tried to record and got nothing, I cleaned the sd card and hit record, turned it off, record again and got a file w/ no data.

I get the impression it only records one time and wont write over a file that's already there?

And What's MAF? is it air fuel? I'm set to record TPS, RPM,MAP, I don't see one that is specifically O2, I though there was last time I set it up.

Intense RT
09-05-2010, 01:01 AM
Here's a LM2 question, does it only record one time? I tried to record and got nothing, I cleaned the sd card and hit record, turned it off, record again and got a file w/ no data.

I get the impression it only records one time and wont write over a file that's already there?

And What's MAF? is it air fuel? I'm set to record TPS, RPM,MAP, I don't see one that is specifically O2, I though there was last time I set it up.Been a while since I datalogged but I'd have new files on the SD each time.

Again, can't recall exactly all the setup procedures as I have to read it every time. Sounds like it's not connected (IE too many channels)...mine used to record 6 no problem and for no reason had a problem last year, called Innovate and they said try setting up to record only 4. For some reason it worked. Other thing is to make sure to follow every step of directions in the owner's manual file.

MAF is Mass Air Flow. Never noticed that. We have fuel injection that uses Speed Density to calculate fuel needed.

RJ_Hythloday
09-05-2010, 02:37 AM
Been a while since I datalogged but I'd have new files on the SD each time.

Again, can't recall exactly all the setup procedures as I have to read it every time. Sounds like it's not connected (IE too many channels)...mine used to record 6 no problem and for no reason had a problem last year, called Innovate and they said try setting up to record only 4. For some reason it worked. Other thing is to make sure to follow every step of directions in the owner's manual file.

MAF is Mass Air Flow. Never noticed that. We have fuel injection that uses Speed Density to calculate fuel needed.

I'm only trying to record 4, it seems like afr should be automatic through the o2 sensor, and not even a selection in the obdII. Not really sure though, so maf is not something that is going to do any good right?

And you say every time you data log it would write new files right? Maybe I'm not recording right.

Intense RT
09-05-2010, 03:26 AM
I'm only trying to record 4, it seems like afr should be automatic through the o2 sensor, and not even a selection in the obdII. Not really sure though, so maf is not something that is going to do any good right?

And you say every time you data log it would write new files right? Maybe I'm not recording right.Yes to all. Not sure about the "recording right". Make sure it has the "R" displayed on the screen when you press record. Mine's needed an extra press occassionally.

RJ_Hythloday
09-09-2010, 03:07 AM
this is what I do:

take the SD card out of lm2. Stick it into SD card reader, than usb port..

open logworks program (brings you to screen with all the gauges)

click file on top, scroll down to import file. find the file you want to import(listed as date)

I than configure the 5 channels I have set up. when the imported file pops up, click on the channels tab. than channel conf. wizard. than set all your values. hit appy, than ok and all should be good.

list in order what you record.

do you have the rpm in the lm2 on or off? reason i ask is if you have it on it might fuck up the game, because thats for the when you use a clamp on the plug wire not obd2. not sure if that will mess with it though...

i got his file.. looks like he has the the RPM on the LM2 turned on. when I go to configure that channel there are no options to change what it is. I'll bet thats the deal.. its recording nothing because he doesn't have an inductive clamp hooked up. I think it cancels the obd2 rpm reading

Definitely worth a try in changing something there. I have a faint memory of what you're talking about.

What I was talking about earlier...remember the screen with the different colored boxes that you can change the parameter recorded and voltage settings? I remember another one where there is like 8? or so drop down menus with a place to check a box out to the side. What was that?

I'm outta state and don't have anything with me to check.

On the LM2 I went into the rpm option and did turn it on, because the first time I tried to log there was no RPM. I thought turning it on would fix it, but you are thinking that having the RPM turned on somehow overrides the OBD2 rpm output and makes the logger look for the inductive pickup?

Once you configure it you don't have to do it every time?

I did 6 channels on mine

1 - TP Normal Priority
2 - Spark - Normal
3 - MAP - Normal
4 - IAT - Low
5 - ECT - Low
6 - RPM - Normal

So will I have to do it every time or am I good to go? Here is my log for about 22 seconds.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Davidsalazar03/Log.jpg

Yes to all. Not sure about the "recording right". Make sure it has the "R" displayed on the screen when you press record. Mine's needed an extra press occassionally.


Holy crap, ok so it's finally been recording, but just like above I'm not showing RPM.

When you say configure are you talking about in the logworks I have to tell it what I'm recording in each channel right?

I've got channel one OBD RPM
Channel two OBD TP
Channel three OBD MAP
and the O2 sensor.

In logworks it looks like it thinks they are all afr?

I'll have to look around the menus on the handheld to find the enable rpm talked about above, this is so freaking frustrating.
I uploaded a .log zipped,

Intense RT
09-09-2010, 02:01 PM
Everything appears normal on first pic. Second wouldn't work.

Somewhere along the line you should have been on a screen ...in the program, not the handheld, that has dropdowns for each channel logged. It would have given the chance to set the "priority" level too. Not saying that's your prob, but if this is something you haven't seen yet, that may just be what's holding you up.

RJ_Hythloday
09-09-2010, 03:42 PM
Everything appears normal on first pic. Second wouldn't work.

Somewhere along the line you should have been on a screen ...in the program, not the handheld, that has dropdowns for each channel logged. It would have given the chance to set the "priority" level too. Not saying that's your prob, but if this is something you haven't seen yet, that may just be what's holding you up.

Ok, found disable rpm in the handheld, still need to play w/ logworks, packing continues. Moving across country next week.

RJ_Hythloday
09-09-2010, 04:59 PM
Alrighht. So here's where I'm confused. Do I connect the handheld to the laptop via usb and configure or just log and put in the sd card and configure using logworks?

RJ_Hythloday
09-11-2010, 03:45 AM
Alright, so I think I've got the rpm recording and configuring logworks down, but now my afr is flatlined at 7.4. What gives?

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3hJS1ehodtI/TIr7G23cUoI/AAAAAAAAASw/dIjyruOQvhk/s800/afr9-10.jpg

This one the afr looks ok but I never got a chance to WOT, the other 3 sessions from today are all w/ out afr data.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3hJS1ehodtI/TIr7HOQnDSI/AAAAAAAAAS0/mmdygn1sYzE/s800/afr9-10-cruising.jpg

Intense RT
09-11-2010, 03:18 PM
Alright, so I think I've got the rpm recording and configuring logworks down, but now my afr is flatlined at 7.4. What gives?

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3hJS1ehodtI/TIr7G23cUoI/AAAAAAAAASw/dIjyruOQvhk/s800/afr9-10.jpg

This one the afr looks ok but I never got a chance to WOT, the other 3 sessions from today are all w/ out afr data.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3hJS1ehodtI/TIr7HOQnDSI/AAAAAAAAAS0/mmdygn1sYzE/s800/afr9-10-cruising.jpgFirst shot, I don't think it'll run at 7.4 and also don't see the purple line for afr.

Second shot looks more like what you should be looking at.

RJ_Hythloday
09-29-2010, 10:23 PM
So Sean says I'm still not showing RPM, session one has 4 bars on the graph, session 2 only has 3.


Here's session 1.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3hJS1ehodtI/TKO7729lvWI/AAAAAAAAATU/jP9Pp9oLtn8/928.jpg

session1 logfile @ sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/z9bdpq)