install party march 20-21

[BryanRT360]

I gonna install my dick in chas's mouth......(adam said it was ok):jester:

anyway. basically Don and I are finally getting our trucks back together. We're both in the same spot engine wise. shortblocks in trucks just needs heads and the rest of the crap..

I figure sat. we will do mine and sunday work on Don's.

I'm in galloway twp 08215 and Don's in Howell. New Jersey

anybody wanna come by???

[SniperRT01]

Lets put some nitrous in my truck!!!!
You and chas have fun with that. Did your wives say it was ok to do that? :laughing:

[Five9Dak]

I don't have anything going on that weekend. It's about 1.5 hour drive to either of those towns from here.....

[blackbeauty2001]

Count me out. I'm taking a trip up to Boston that weekend

[BryanRT360]

Lets put some nitrous in my truck!!!!
You and chas have fun with that. Did your wives say it was ok to do that? :laughing:

ok do you have all the parts

[BryanRT360]

I don't have anything going on that weekend. It's about 1.5 hour drive to either of those towns from here.....

thats not bad at all. it takes me an hour to get to don's

[RJ_Hythloday]

So you both found it easier to install the short blocks first? I've been considering installing the intake manifold after, but thought I'd install the heads on the engine stand.

[BryanRT360]

So you both found it easier to install the short blocks first? I've been considering installing the intake manifold after, but thought I'd install the heads on the engine stand.

short blocks never came out. easier to describe that way i guess. Don's head had some fucked up valves, so they came off. and my truck i pull the heads to get ported

[RJ_Hythloday]

short blocks never came out. easier to describe that way i guess. Don's head had some fucked up valves, so they came off. and my truck i pull the heads to get ported

alright, you've got a lot less work ahead of you. Good luck.

[BryanRT360]

walk in the park:biggthumpup:

[2k1AmberR/T]

I wish I could come join in on the fun. How far from Cecil are you guys?

[BryanRT360]

i'm probably hour and a half. don is about 2 and a half

[2k1AmberR/T]

Fuck. Cecil is about 3 hours from me. :nono:

[RJ_Hythloday]

I wish I could come join in on the fun. How far from Cecil are you guys?

You could come join the fun here soon :biggthumpup:

[SniperRT01]

Ill stop by and just chill out. I have to get the system out and check it all. I think im going to wait another week to do it, money is short this week.

[2k1AmberR/T]

You could come join the fun here soon :biggthumpup:

Definitely, I'll be back down there this weekend (I'm on spring break in Nova at the moment). I'll even have the fuel injector o-rings with me. Sorry I didn't respond to your last PM...I was busy and ended up forgetting about it. The past few weekends I've been busy as hell actually so I knew I wouldn't be able to get them down to you until this weekend at the very earliest. When do you plan on starting? I'm pretty much free every weekend so any time you need a hand you can just give me a shout I don't care if it's 6am or 10pm. You're only a few minutes down the street. Do you have/need a pushrod length checker? I can bring one of those down tomorrow as well...

[RJ_Hythloday]

Definitely, I'll be back down there this weekend (I'm on spring break in Nova at the moment). I'll even have the fuel injector o-rings with me. Sorry I didn't respond to your last PM...I was busy and ended up forgetting about it. The past few weekends I've been busy as hell actually so I knew I wouldn't be able to get them down to you until this weekend at the very earliest. When do you plan on starting? I'm pretty much free every weekend so any time you need a hand you can just give me a shout I don't care if it's 6am or 10pm. You're only a few minutes down the street. Do you have/need a pushrod length checker? I can bring one of those down tomorrow as well...
That would be awesome. I ended up getting the O-rings at Napa, but could certainly use the pushrod checker, haven't gotten the cam installed yet but need to get around to it. Need to finish up the heads, got some new stones at grainger. This week has been super busy at work, and home work, house work, family etc. I just haven't gotten out there at all since last Saturday. I took some days off a week from now, I'm hoping to have it installed and running.

[BryanRT360]

hay you motha fuckers get your own thread:rtfm::nana:

[bfranzel]

hay you motha fuckers get your own thread:rtfm::nana:

:jester:

[RTchas]

[QUOTE=BryanRT360;100842]I gonna install my dick in chas's mouth......(adam said it was ok):jester:[QUOTE]

I Knew you where Sweet for me!:gay::flipa:
If I was not packing to Move I would Love to turn so wrench's wit ya!

[2k1AmberR/T]

Fine, we don't want to watch you put your dick in Chas' mouth anyway!

BTW - did Chris tell you how well your heads flowed after he worked his magic? Or are you just going to talk to him when you pick them up? Or did you already pick them up? ?

[BryanRT360]

Fine, we don't want to watch you put your dick in Chas' mouth anyway!

BTW - did Chris tell you how well your heads flowed after he worked his magic? Or are you just going to talk to him when you pick them up? Or did you already pick them up? ?

picked them up already. forgot to ask about the #'s. I havent even looked at them yet, still in bags in my wife's trunk.

[Five9Dak]

I got my rear o2 issue sorted out. Finally got a bung welded to the exhaust so I don't need to keep the sensor on the frame rail anymore. (last one shorted out after two years) CEL is off.

So now that that is done, I shouldn't have anything to do next weekend.

[BryanRT360]

I got my rear o2 issue sorted out. Finally got a bung welded to the exhaust so I don't need to keep the sensor on the frame rail anymore. (last one shorted out after two years) CEL is off.

So now that that is done, I shouldn't have anything to do next weekend.

let me know if you need an address.

[Five9Dak]

I realised I have a previous commitment (car show I pre-registered for) on sunday, but I still want to help out on saturday. PM me your address.

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

thats not bad at all. it takes me an hour to get to don's


But I'm worth the trip :biggthumpup:

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

[quote=BryanRT360;100842]I gonna install my dick in chas's mouth......(adam said it was ok):jester:[quote]

I Knew you where Sweet for me!:gay::flipa:
If I was not packing to Move I would Love to turn so wrench's wit ya!


The only thing you're packing is fudge, HOMO !!! :jester:

[BryanRT360]

bump... who's coming down?

[SniperRT01]

What time saturday are you starting

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

bump... who's coming down?


Can you get Joe Greene to show up ? I have $$, but I can't get him to call me back :bs:

[BryanRT360]

What time saturday are you starting

5 am:biggthumpup:

[BryanRT360]

Can you get Joe Greene to show up ? I have $$, but I can't get him to call me back :bs:

sure can.

[ME111]

I gonna install my dick in chas's mouth......(adam said it was ok):jester:

Hahahaha!! Thanks for the laugh..I really needed that!!!

Wish I could be there..seriously!!

[Five9Dak]

I don't think I'll be there at 5am....

Earliest I could reasonably get there is probably around 8 with the drive.

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

sure can.


call me, when you get a minute. Just not tonite, it's my son's confirmation :biggthumpup: Picked up the heads today. Hopefully this will finish things out. They look decent, he wound up doing more grinding on the M1 to get the ports to match. The heads were pretty much there outta the box. They definitely sent me a better build quality pair this time. Seriously, what time sunday

[BryanRT360]

I don't think I'll be there at 5am....

Earliest I could reasonably get there is probably around 8 with the drive.

:jester: I might be in bed by 5 am...lol

it would have been funny to have adam calling me that morning. " how come your not at the shop":jester:

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

PM me the street addy, when you get a chance

[Five9Dak]

Now what If I didnt check back on this thread and was knocking on the door at 8?

When should I really get there?

[BryanRT360]

I'll be there around 9

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

I'll be there around 9

slave driver :jester:

[SniperRT01]

I wasnt showing up at 5am. Ill be there maybe noonish. Doesnt Joe always hang out with bryan?

[Five9Dak]

Cya guys tommorow, still trying to be there at 9am.

[Five9Dak]

How did Don's go?

[BryanRT360]

well got mine running on saturday. fucking water pump leaked, so i swapped the gasket(hot, took only 20 min)

dons is almost running. he wanted to hide some wire and reroute some hose's. plus he didn't have a serpentine belt. he is probably an hour front fire up.

on the way back from Don's, My low pressure power steering line blew off the pump. sprayed that shit all over. I had to call don to drive 40 miles one way to bring me one stinkin hose clamp. tightened up the clamp and was one my way.

I also developed a exhaust leak off my header. I not going say any names, but I was under the truck bolting up the collectors so I dunno what happened there.:jester:

[SniperRT01]

Why did nt you call me when the hose blew off? Im sure i might of been closer then don. Hows your truck running?

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

well got mine running on saturday. fucking water pump leaked, so i swapped the gasket(hot, took only 20 min)

dons is almost running. he wanted to hide some wire and reroute some hose's. plus he didn't have a serpentine belt. he is probably an hour front fire up.

on the way back from Don's, My low pressure power steering line blew off the pump. sprayed that shit all over. I had to call don to drive 40 miles one way to bring me one stinkin hose clamp. tightened up the clamp and was one my way.

I also developed a exhaust leak off my header. I not going say any names, but I was under the truck bolting up the collectors so I dunno what happened there.:jester:


yeah what am I, Triple A...mutha effa ! :jester:

You're sure the new port plate tweaked ? I still have that other set(if you need them), I'm pretty sure I won't be using those thin ones...ever. I'm going to call spintech today and order another set of the old style, just to have some spares around. :biggthumpup:

[BryanRT360]

yeah what am I, Triple A...mutha effa ! :jester:

You're sure the new port plate tweaked ? I still have that other set(if you need them), I'm pretty sure I won't be using those thin ones...ever. I'm going to call spintech today and order another set of the old style, just to have some spares around. :biggthumpup:

yeah they are tweaked, but just the center ports. I got enough snot around them now and they are leak free so far...

[BryanRT360]

Why did nt you call me when the hose blew off? Im sure i might of been closer then don. Hows your truck running?

WTF happened to you anyway? We had a good time over the week end.

[SniperRT01]

i ended up working around the house and in the garage. Washed my Impala. All that good shit. you want a drop in bed liner for your truck? I got a bed rug now

[BryanRT360]

i ended up working around the house and in the garage. Washed my Impala. All that good shit. you want a drop in bed liner for your truck? I got a bed rug now

sure if its free:burnout:

[RTchas]

[[QUOTE=BryanRT360;102481]. on the way back from Don's, My low pressure power steering line blew off the pump. sprayed that shit all over. I had to call don to drive 40 miles one way hose clamp. tightened up the clamp and was one my way.


Why didn't you call Joe Green ??:D

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

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Why didn't you call Joe Green ??:D

Oh he was around all weekend. But you know him, he's a useless stoner mutha effa :jester:

[Five9Dak]

You should have used the pretty new port plates. If it was my side that leaked, I fully blame it on the tweaked plates.

[BryanRT360]

You should have used the pretty new port plates. If it was my side that leaked, I fully blame it on the tweaked plates.

it was dons side. and we did use brand new plates

[Five9Dak]

Oh ok, I guess we should have used the black ones. :jester:

On a related note, how the hell did you hear it leaking? I couldn't hear myself think while it was running.

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

You should have used the pretty new port plates. If it was my side that leaked, I fully blame it on the tweaked plates.


no, it was my side :bs:

I think the deal with those is that they're just too thin. It seems any kind of torque at all will cause them to twist. I'm going to just keep using the spintech ones, the extra beef seems to help.

[2k1AmberR/T]

I wasn't a huge fan of the thin ones either FWIW.

[sunike32]

I wasn't a huge fan of the thin ones either FWIW.

My thin plate on the driver's side held up just fine all last summer :biggthumpup:

I think we can all go back and forth on this nonstop...time to have a batch of steel plates made up.

[2k1AmberR/T]

My drivers side is fine, too! (after doing it twice). I just need to fix the passenger side now. Spintechs were worry free for 6 years after one install, without even a re-torque on the bolts.

[sunike32]

I agree with what Don has stated before...had Spintech/GSM provided longer hardware right from the get go (or had the previous owner used said hardware) then the original plates would have lasted with no problem.

You ended up using one of Todd's plates on the driver's side, didn't you?

[BryanRT360]

I thought my last set warped because i was using a remflex gasket behind the plates to the head. That never ever leaked, but I thought it bent the plates cause the gaskets crush up to 50%. this time just RTV on the plates and they warped the same exact way. (center ports only) fuck it both sides are leak free now.

next time i'll grap a set of spintech plates and be good to go. we torqued the shit out the bolts on don's spintech plates. not once did I feel I would pull some threads.

[sunike32]

That, that just proves that the proper hardware makes all the difference with the Spintech plates.

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

OK, my shit busted...again....bad :bs::jerkit:

I barely cranked it, and it fired right up. It settled into a nice lumpy idle right away. So I start topping off the coolant. After about a minute, I hear a loud PING and it stopped dead. It restarted easily, but with a loud rod knock, WTF !?!?! I had to take my daughter to softball, so I let it cool down. It never even reached the 1/2 way point on the temp guage. So, I don't think it overheated. Anyway, I started it again, once I came back. It started easily, and the knock was much quieter, but still there. It also had a new problem, one cylinder was dead. I started pulling plug wires and it looks like # 6 is the problem child. There's also oil smoke coming from the exhaust now too. I'm thinking bad wrist pin or rod bolt. Either way, that block is junk now. 3 frigging minutes, that has to be a record.

On the bright side, it sounded like a beast when it was running. And, it seems my oil pump mod worked like a champ. I have 40 Lbs of pressure @ idle, and 70+ Lbs once the rpms start to climb. I don't think it was anything Bryan or I did that caused the failure. It's just my shitty luck. The dealer has agreeed to put another short block in it. I'm going to tear all the vroom vroom parts off tomorrow, and have it towed up there.

I learned a lot about proper torqueing working with Bryan this time. I think I'll have them just pop in another short block this time, and I'll finish the build with Bryan. I know that they won't be anywhere near as thorough as Bryan & I were. Anyone think I can reuse my ARP head bolts, or should I get new ones ?

I tell you guys, it was the best of times and the worst of times. All in the span of about 5 minutes. It fealt like someone punched me in the gut, no lie. I WILL be ready for Carlisle though, even if it kills me :woot::burnout:

[RJ_Hythloday]

I tell you guys, it was the best of times and the worst of times. All in the span of about 5 minutes. It fealt like someone punched me in the gut, no lie. I WILL be ready for Carlisle though, even if it kills me :woot::burnout:

Yikes! sorry to hear that, at least it's being covered, except for your time.

[sunike32]

OMG Don, you have got to be kidding me. *Checking the calendar* Nope not April Fools yet, but close...?

I can't believe your luck with that damn thing. What's the time frame you're looking at now? UGH sorry to hear brother!!!

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

OMG Don, you have got to be kidding me. *Checking the calendar* Nope not April Fools yet, but close...?

I can't believe your luck with that damn thing. What's the time frame you're looking at now? UGH sorry to hear brother!!!


If the past is any indication, It should take them 2 or 3 weeks to get the shortblock in & installed. I'm going to talk to the today about me doing from the heads up. As long as their going to stand behind things, I'm ok with it. Disappointed, sure, but it could be worse. The thing that kills me is that there's another 2=300 dollar in gaskets & hardware I'll have to re-buy.Shit like this test my dedication to the project, but I'm NOT giving up. Heading out now to start pulling parts.

[bad360rt]

Damn Don, that's some seriously shitty luck, crazy.

[RTchas]

Don! WTF ! Stay inside if a Thunder storm come's by! I feel your pain when I went thru 3 blower belts and then the bearing I was thinking about hanging up my Dakota Hat and trading in the truck! Glad I did Not do that now !! Hang in there Brutha better days are coming hope you get it together quickly!

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

Damn Don, that's some seriously shitty luck, crazy.


tell me about it, I won't be winning the lottery anytime soon. I must be some kind of horrible, vile person, that's the only way I can justify the shitty karma I've had over the last few years. :bs:

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

Tore it down today, sort of. I took my headers and all the bling stuff off, as I have in the past, so the dealer tech wouldn't have to worry about damaging them. What I found was my exhaust rocker off to the side of the valve on Cyl. 4, WTF ? I pulled all the rockers and studs out, as I'll do the final adjustments. I don't expect the dealer dude to do that. What I found was that the exhaust valve on # 4 partially compressed, and stuck. I couldn't get it to come back up. The lock and retainer is still there & fine. So, my guess is bad rod bolt or wrist pin, and that the piston continued up far enough to bend the valve.

It was really sad to see Platinum up on the flat bed, yet again, pulling away from my house. :bs:Spoke to the dealer, they'll tear it down next week and order a new short block. My machine shop guy, who did the heads, is ready to fix the damage. Hopefully, it'll just be a bad valve and valve guide. I really want to be the one to finish the assembly, I think Bryan and I will do a far better job. I'm going to ask them to just drop the shortblock in, and I'll finish it from there. Bad news is I'll probably need to pop another $500 deductible. Maybe not, we'll see how that turns out. Good news is that I should only need to buy intake and head gaskets. ARP said no problem with re-using my head bolts. I did see a big problem with the block, while I was working on it today. There was a huge yellow mopar sticker on it that said, remanufactured in Mexico. !?!?!? Fuck me, fuckin beaners !!!!! :bs::bs::bs::bs::bs::jerkit:

[BryanRT360]

this really sux... I wish they would just give you a new shortblock in a crate. I would love to open her up and check it over.(plastagauge, bolt torques, cam degree)

they charged you 500 last time? and maybe 500 this time???:bs: you know I hate to say this, but maybe your "Getto build" as you call it wasn't your brightest idea?

anyway get the parts and we'll get it done...:goodluck:

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

I don't know about the deductible this time, I'm just assuming that will be the case. I just wish I had the coin to do my own SB build. Instead of relying on this shit.

[bad360rt]

I've heard of QC issues with the reman shortblocks, I like Bryan's idea if you can get them to just give you the shortblock, you can double check everything first.

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

I've heard of QC issues with the reman shortblocks, I like Bryan's idea if you can get them to just give you the shortblock, you can double check everything first.

I doubt they'll do that, although I agree. I don't think I'll be able to get them to give it back to me with the heads off either. I'll probably let bolt the head down with shitty stock gaskets & bolts, then just bring it home and pop 'em back off to put the ARPs and 1008s back on.

[jw02rcrt]

I don't know about the deductible this time, I'm just assuming that will be the case. I just wish I had the coin to do my own SB build. Instead of relying on this shit.

Well Don, speaking from experience, ALOT of coin went into my build and I started with a $300 junkyard motor.

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

I drove through the stealership lot this morning. The truck is gone. So, either they started working on it, or someone stole it with a flat bed :jester:

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

They just moved it to another spot.........bastards !!!!! :bs:

[mtlcafan79]

I see those greased palms and cases of beer have paid off. D'oh.

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

I see those greased palms and cases of beer have paid off. D'oh.

yeah, no shit :jerkit: