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rt envy
03-09-2008, 09:17 PM
im looking for a low priced set off long tube headers but there are alot of companys that make them are they all the same?? just looking for something on the low side but will still make good hp.
SinCity R/T
03-09-2008, 09:27 PM
There's only two companies that make long-tube headers for the Dakota...

John Mercedes @ www.southeastperformance.com has a custom set of 1 3/4" diameter long tubes. I believe he also has 1 5/8" diameter tubes available as well.

Marty @ www.krcperformance.com takes a set of 1 5/8" diameter Hooker headers for a different truck and converts them for use on the R/T.

Dave @ www.spintechmufflers.com (Rick @ www.truedualexhaust.com will be a vendor) is working on a set of long tube headers, I dunno if they're 1 5/8" or 1 3/4", not released yet but supposedly soon in the future.
bad360rt
03-09-2008, 10:09 PM
Don't usually find the words "low price" and "long tubes" in the same sentence :) But Steve pointed out the current options. What are your plans for the truck? Spintech's midlength headers have worked really well on a lot of trucks, and without any of the install hassles that you get with longtubes.
Trueblue R/T
03-09-2008, 11:20 PM
im looking for a low priced set off long tube headers but there are alot of companys that make them are they all the same?? just looking for something on the low side but will still make good hp.

looks like hooker got the word that the 5803 would go on our trucks..used to be able to get a painted set for around 250.00 now they just sell the ceramic coated version for almost 700.00..WOW
GoFastGray
03-10-2008, 12:31 AM
Any interest in a used set of longtubes? approx 4k miles on them.
WeezyRT
03-10-2008, 12:37 AM
Any interest in a used set of longtubes? approx 4k miles on them.

Selling yours, Kev? Why?
rt envy
03-10-2008, 01:07 AM
im trying to do headers y pipe and a muffler and get a chip for about 600 bucks. i have a mig and know how to use it so that will help but i just want to know if shorty headers are good? i have a cold air intake and a low temp stat. how much more power could long tube vs shortys be??
slvr03dakrt
03-10-2008, 01:16 AM
get the mid lengths they are a better option than the shorties.
rt envy
03-10-2008, 01:20 AM
get the mid lengths they are a better option than the shorties.

where can i get them?? i also need a y pipe
GoFastGray
03-10-2008, 01:52 AM
Selling yours, Kev? Why?

Longtubes are gonna be a PITA to take on and off for smog or try to get sneak by.
I'm thinking about getting an easier set of headers to bolt/unbolt. Like spintech's full kit w/o cats. Than get a set of eddy headers w/ cali E.O. and bolt on for inspections (when i'm not racing). Just hood up stock exhaust real quick. should be a decent swap once every two years.
Nolan
03-10-2008, 07:00 AM
Rather than swap headers just stamp the Edelbrock EO# on the flange of the Spintechs and call them Eddies!

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/00800-00899/00800.gif (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=800)

Nolan
John
03-10-2008, 04:11 PM
Rather than swap headers just stamp the Edelbrock EO# on the flange of the Spintechs and call them Eddies!

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/00800-00899/00800.gif (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=800)

Nolan

thats a good idea. and if that doesnt work, cant you make friends with a shop that might let you squeak by for a small price?
John
03-10-2008, 04:13 PM
im trying to do headers y pipe and a muffler and get a chip for about 600 bucks. i have a mig and know how to use it so that will help but i just want to know if shorty headers are good? i have a cold air intake and a low temp stat. how much more power could long tube vs shortys be??

you probably wont be able to get all that for $600, well not new anyway. Also when you say chip, you do mean like a programmer or a mopar performance PCM right? Because a jet chip is just about worthless.
rt envy
03-10-2008, 04:58 PM
you probably wont be able to get all that for $600, well not new anyway. Also when you say chip, you do mean like a programmer or a mopar performance PCM right? Because a jet chip is just about worthless.



im going to go with the mopar pcm is that good enuf ?
bad360rt
03-10-2008, 05:52 PM
im going to go with the mopar pcm is that good enuf ?

Mopar PCM will be good. I'd save up for the Spintech midlengths, they're $680 new, but you might be able to find a used set cheaper.
John
03-10-2008, 06:28 PM
im going to go with the mopar pcm is that good enuf ?

Yeah I think you will enjoy it. I like mine. Its good for motors that just have minor mods.
rt envy
03-12-2008, 09:19 PM
so who make mid-length headers??
bad360rt
03-12-2008, 09:45 PM
so who make mid-length headers??

Spintech and Mopar/PPHs are the only ones I'm aware of. The Mopars aren't being made anymore, I think there was a group buy recently for the last ones made. You can get the Spintechs from Rick at www.truedualexhaust.com :biggthumpup:
rt envy
03-12-2008, 10:41 PM
are the shorty any good??
BTLFED R/T
03-12-2008, 10:54 PM
are the shorty any good??

Shorty headers are not much more than glorified exhaust manifolds. Some may argue that point, but it's been dyno proven.
rt envy
03-12-2008, 11:54 PM
well that sucks
KicknAsphlt
03-13-2008, 04:41 AM
Spintech and Mopar/PPHs are the only ones I'm aware of. The Mopars aren't being made anymore, I think there was a group buy recently for the last ones made. You can get the Spintechs from Rick at www.truedualexhaust.com (http://www.truedualexhaust.com) :biggthumpup:

Dave, still trying to round up people for the last batch in existence. To the OP...$575 + shipping will get you a set of nickel-finish Mopar/PPH Headers and the Y-pipe that comes with them. You would be #4 for this buy if you decided to do it, still need another 4 after that for the deal to go down though. You're not gonna do Headers, Y-pipe, Muffler, and PCM for $600 though...not without getting some of that stuff for a 5-finger discount at least... :jester: