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PeteRT
10-25-2009, 06:04 AM
I bit the bullet finally and jumped on the latest sct deal with Sean.. Of course I went with the tweak deal for the extra 100...

Since I'm short a wideband at the moment & the last dyno run is useless because it was on a Fox flashed PCM, I'm not sure we'll hit the nail on the head fuel wise with the first set of tunes before it's snowing and the lady is hibernating until April....

Sean said his canned tunes wont have enough fuel at wot for my setup, so... I figured I'd run my mods list past you guys and hope one of you has a very similar list and perhaps I can get a copy of a tune already out there to get close.

So, here she is:


99 ccab
Crate shortblock 360 (363.3ci on the reman's out of the catalog)
stock crank, pistons, compression, etc...
Sausage cam 210/216 512/512@112
52mm f&b
Stock fuel system
m1 2bbl
1.92 heads
1.7 RR's
pph headers
2.5" true duals, no cats
3500 viper stall
4.56's
viper fan
msd 6al
blaster ss coil

It's a pretty standard list... hoping one of you has been where I'm going....

Thanks in advance..
Pete

mtlcafan79
10-25-2009, 01:10 PM
You can't get copies from other people. It doesn't work like that. You need to work with Sean to tweak your induvidual tune. I don't see how he wouldn't have a tune that's at least very close to your combo. It's a pretty common combo, nothing wild. You will have to dyno your current setup and go from there.

hskr
10-25-2009, 01:36 PM
Don't ask for a canned tune, send him your mods list and your dyno run with a/f ratio from when you had your other PCM. He will get his tune close enough you can drive it with no problems. On my initial tune(our mods lists are similar but not exact as I have the Eddy heads) I was actually rich at WOT, and the stock injectors, and he's had to pull fuel since the first tune.

PeteRT
10-25-2009, 04:34 PM
You can't get copies from other people. It doesn't work like that. You need to work with Sean to tweak your induvidual tune. I don't see how he wouldn't have a tune that's at least very close to your combo. It's a pretty common combo, nothing wild. You will have to dyno your current setup and go from there.

that's where i was going with it... see who's out there and just ask him to "look into what you did for so-and-so"
pete

PeteRT
10-25-2009, 04:35 PM
your dyno run with a/f ratio from when you had your other PCM.

that will take a fbi data recovery specialist.... i dont even remember if i have a stock pcm dyno.

pete

Addicted2Blue00
10-25-2009, 05:42 PM
best way to go with has already been mentioned, ill be goin with sean tunin my setup next yr when everything goes back in, pie sent me 1 tune and wont send me another til i have my a/f checked some how instead of by my equipment and with sct loaded i have p codes n CEL.


heres my mods fastman 52 tb, 4bbl m1, 21# injectors, eq heads with SS 2.02 int' 1.65 exh' valves 1.7 HS rockers, 210x cam .544 lift, cloyes double roller chain, asp crank pulley, shorty headers, msd 6a w/ blaster coil

Sick 660r
10-25-2009, 06:30 PM
he wont have a problem making a tune for your setup.

hskr
10-25-2009, 09:44 PM
that will take a fbi data recovery specialist.... i dont even remember if i have a stock pcm dyno.

pete

Then just send him your mods list. With the number of trucks he has tuned, he'll be able to pull a tune from his files that will be pretty dammn close. If he can write a tune that allowed Dave's truck to start up the first time and idle good, he'll have no problems with your truck.

X_HAWAII RT
10-27-2009, 04:32 AM
my truck seems to be running fairly well so far, just been driving it around here and there no WOT runs. One thing he could not guarantee is deleting the misfire codes..he said it is it will usually be taken out with the tune. I have misfire codes. I'm getting real close to picking up the LM2, maybe he will see something on the datalogging and will be able to get rid of them.

I'm not sure what Tom Fox did, but he was able to delete them in his tune. At this point, it will NOT pass emissions. (If anything, I'll thrown in the stock injectors and run the TF tune) I guess it's more of a nuissance but at the same time you have to alway check to make sure the MIL is not of something else. BUT I WANT them GONE!!!!!

Scott

2k1AmberR/T
10-27-2009, 04:43 AM
my truck seems to be running fairly well so far, just been driving it around here and there no WOT runs. One thing he could not guarantee is deleting the misfire codes..he said it is it will usually be taken out with the tune. I have misfire codes. I'm getting real close to picking up the LM2, maybe he will see something on the datalogging and will be able to get rid of them.

I'm not sure what Tom Fox did, but he was able to delete them in his tune. At this point, it will NOT pass emissions. (If anything, I'll thrown in the stock injectors and run the TF tune) I guess it's more of a nuissance but at the same time you have to alway check to make sure the MIL is not of something else. BUT I WANT them GONE!!!!!

Scott

Weird, Chris at PIE turned off my misfire codes without a problem. I want to say Sean has definitely done the same for others also.

X_HAWAII RT
10-27-2009, 06:02 AM
Weird, Chris at PIE turned off my misfire codes without a problem. I want to say Sean has definitely done the same for others also.

I dont know, here is what he said: "the pcm is compatible. As long as the misfire is the generic 300 code that cams cause, that is "usually" deleted in the tune. I can't guarantee that part though"'.

1EVILR/T
10-27-2009, 12:28 PM
My question about turning off the misfire codes is will it still be in the PCM as a code, and just no light or will the PCM show no codes? I ask only because i'm in upstate NY and if there are any codes at all the trucks won't pass NY state inspection! and needless to say, my truck hasnt passed a state inspection in 3 years now

ME111
10-27-2009, 12:43 PM
My question about turning off the misfire codes is will it still be in the PCM as a code, and just no light or will the PCM show no codes? I ask only because i'm in upstate NY and if there are any codes at all the trucks won't pass NY state inspection! and needless to say, my truck hasnt passed a state inspection in 3 years now

Next time you go for an inspection, try resetting your computer by disconnecting the battery and then drive it for at least 40 NON-Aggressive miles. Make sure you have no more than 45 fresh miles on it when you get there.

As for SCT being able to not show misfire codes...I've managed to get it to where they only show up as soft codes and not trip the check engine light. I'll keep working on the hexidecimal code for it as time permits down the road but I've got bigger fish to fry right now

mtlcafan79
10-27-2009, 12:57 PM
With the R/T it had a CEL for cats, but no misfires with the B&G flash. SCT had no cat codes, but had mutiple misfire codes. I had to go to a 950rpm idle, reset the PCM and get to the emissions station before it went more than 50 miles. It usually tripped the light on the way home.

98Dak408
10-27-2009, 12:59 PM
I dont know, here is what he said: "the pcm is compatible. As long as the misfire is the generic 300 code that cams cause, that is "usually" deleted in the tune. I can't guarantee that part though"'.


My question about turning off the misfire codes is will it still be in the PCM as a code, and just no light or will the PCM show no codes? I ask only because i'm in upstate NY and if there are any codes at all the trucks won't pass NY state inspection! and needless to say, my truck hasnt passed a state inspection in 3 years now

With a cam, I believe you have to turn up the idle to help avoid the random misfire codes. I have no problem with random misfire codes unless my idle is too low. For reference, with a 220/230, .512, 108 lsa cam I'm set to idle at 900 rpm in neutral and 800 rpm in gear. If for some reason (for instance misadjusted IAC counts) the engine idles down to around 600 rpm, I'll start getting random misfire codes. The target idle can be set with the SCT tune.

Sick 660r
10-27-2009, 03:24 PM
Weird, Chris at PIE turned off my misfire codes without a problem. I want to say Sean has definitely done the same for others also.

x2 sean took care of my misfire codes without a issue.

98Dak408
10-27-2009, 03:34 PM
Weird, Chris at PIE turned off my misfire codes without a problem. I want to say Sean has definitely done the same for others also.


x2 sean took care of my misfire codes without a issue.Did Sean say whether he set your idle higher for that or merely (somehow) turned off the codes?

I have the SCT tune also and Marty at KRC said if the idle was too low it would set false misfire codes. He wasn't able (to my understanding) to just turn off the codes with the SCT.

Out of curiosity, where is the idle set on your vehicles?

hskr
10-27-2009, 03:49 PM
It's taken care of by turning up the idle RPMs. If you are getting misfire codes above idle while driving, then you have other issues with spark/fuel you need to sort out.

1EVILR/T
10-27-2009, 04:27 PM
You guys are right as far as the codes surfacing only when its idling, and as for the "soft codes" still wont pass! I've talked to Sean about this, he says that he should be able to help me, but there are a few things that im waiting on before the new tune.

2k1AmberR/T
10-27-2009, 06:31 PM
Chris stopped the light from coming on in the dash as far as I know. That was a separate issue from raising my idle RPM. I could be wrong but that's how he told it to me. My idle is set to 750.

Sick 660r
10-27-2009, 07:48 PM
Did Sean say whether he set your idle higher for that or merely (somehow) turned off the codes?

I have the SCT tune also and Marty at KRC said if the idle was too low it would set false misfire codes. He wasn't able (to my understanding) to just turn off the codes with the SCT.

Out of curiosity, where is the idle set on your vehicles?

my idle is set a 850. When I had my first tune he simply removed the CEL without raising the idle as far as I know of. We had to raise the idle in order to keep it running this time.

1EVILR/T
10-27-2009, 09:08 PM
B/G flashed my PCM to idle @ 650, obviously its to low, I just need to bite the bullet and get a SCT and be done with it!

X_HAWAII RT
10-28-2009, 01:03 AM
I'll have to check my idle, I know it's higher than the TF flash. I believe that was around 650 and he was able to get rid of it....

X_HAWAII RT
10-29-2009, 12:58 AM
It seems to be hovering right around 700. I changed the guage face years back, I will double check once the LM2 is hooked up.

2k1AmberR/T
10-29-2009, 01:32 AM
It seems to be hovering right around 700. I changed the guage face years back, I will double check once the LM2 is hooked up.

Yeah see what the lm2 says, or if you have the abiilty to use a scanner that'll work great.

PeteRT
10-29-2009, 02:14 AM
got the handheld in the mail today and for a change- i read the instructions first.

kinda freaked me out when the ODO read "no bus".... instructions didnt say anything about that LOL.



pete

hskr
10-29-2009, 02:34 AM
Yeah, that kind of freaked me out too the first time. Especially because I have read stories about guys having to send both the handheld and thier PCMs in to SCT to get them working again.