View Full Version : sweet and simple ecu mod??!?!?!?
MoparMarine
09-26-2009, 02:04 AM
keeping everything within the realm of everyday driver is the mopar performance ecu the way to go? i wanna do a tear down and just have enough ass to take a some pony cars down and maybe a couple 5.7 hemi's ya know make'em regret they spent 50k on a car..lol:drive:
sunike32
09-26-2009, 02:04 AM
Keep your stock computer and order an SCT tuner...
MoparMarine
09-26-2009, 02:19 AM
600 bones for sct man a little steep , for a one time use product... anyone have any complaints with hypertech modules
$375 right now for SCT with unlimited tweaks from Hemifever, or $275 for canned tunes with no tweaks. You can't touch a new hypertech or Superchips for that price and depending on your model year you'd have a hard time finding a used Mopar PCM.
MoparMarine
09-26-2009, 02:27 AM
thanks for the info i'll check it out
Adobedude
09-26-2009, 02:29 AM
keeping everything within the realm of everyday driver is the mopar performance ecu the way to go? i wanna do a tear down and just have enough ass to take a some pony cars down and maybe a couple 5.7 hemi's ya know make'em regret they spent 50k on a car..lol:drive:
SCT...but I'm afraid those other cars are gonna kick your ass without more mods.
The Dakota R/T is nothing but a Magnum 5.9 in a Dakota with a 1" drop. And...The Gen III Dakota is a heavy weight pig.
Money is your friend.
MoparMarine
09-26-2009, 02:38 AM
well heres the plan for my R/t its an 03 by the way, im gonna have the tranny built by Phoenix Transmission Products , do mono leafs and cal tracks in the rear , lose the spear put a 22gal fuel cell centered behind the axle. the rear is a toss up for me, beef up the bottom end and put some heads that can breath on the engine, and maybe single turbo. still no sure on that , i kinda like the pride of being naturally aspirated.
scatpackdal
09-26-2009, 03:00 AM
well heres the plan for my R/t its an 03 by the way, im gonna have the tranny built by Phoenix Transmission Products , do mono leafs and cal tracks in the rear , lose the spear put a 22gal fuel cell centered behind the axle. the rear is a toss up for me, beef up the bottom end and put some heads that can breath on the engine, and maybe single turbo. still no sure on that , i kinda like the pride of being naturally aspirated.
Well that sounds great on "paper," now you just need 10k. All this after saying you don't wanna spend too much on the daily driver.
Anywho, SCT is your friend. It's the best option available if you plan to add on to the truck. As already mentioned it's not near the price you quoted previously.
Bos-R/T
09-26-2009, 03:01 AM
well heres the plan for my R/t its an 03 by the way, im gonna have the tranny built by Phoenix Transmission Products , do mono leafs and cal tracks in the rear , lose the spear put a 22gal fuel cell centered behind the axle. the rear is a toss up for me, beef up the bottom end and put some heads that can breath on the engine, and maybe single turbo. still no sure on that , i kinda like the pride of being naturally aspirated.
You will like spending 275.00 on something that is tremendously noticeable.I had a JET stage 2 in mine and thought it was something.I ditched it and got the SCT and one word WOW!!I cant keep my foot up and cant keep my tires from spinning.SCT is the way to go.His email is hemifever@aol.com
Intense RT
09-26-2009, 03:15 AM
well heres the plan for my R/t its an 03 by the way, im gonna have the tranny built by Phoenix Transmission Products , do mono leafs and cal tracks in the rear , lose the spear put a 22gal fuel cell centered behind the axle. the rear is a toss up for me, beef up the bottom end and put some heads that can breath on the engine, and maybe single turbo. still no sure on that , i kinda like the pride of being naturally aspirated.May want to ask Duner what he thinks about his monoleafs...up to you. I don't think you're in the realm of needing them unless you're in the 11's or 10's. I think you wait a little bit on the Cal Tracs too.
Do normal maintenance first. On these Dakotas, that would be the front suspension rebuild (I think it's required, lol). You know, poly bushings, moog ball joints, etc. Definitely keep an eye on balljoints. They go bad on these kinda often. Then do yourself a favor and have poly bushings put in the leaf springs. After that, you'll notice a hell of a difference in handling and steering response. I'm getting a damn good st tire 60ft with this setup and cutting off rear spring clamp and adding a clamp tightened down behind stock spring clamp up on front half of leaf pack.
There's the caliper lockup deal too. Concensus seems to be brake lines, but I'm not sure that's all of it. Just keep a good eye on it. Flush brake fluid too if needed, I'd say.
Five9Dak
09-26-2009, 04:09 AM
SCT...but I'm afraid those other cars are gonna kick your ass without more mods.
The Dakota R/T is nothing but a Magnum 5.9 in a Dakota with a 1" drop. And...The Gen III Dakota is a heavy weight pig.
Money is your friend.
You forgot the heavy transmission that wears out pretty quick, and the huge power sapping rear with the not so strong LSD.
MoparMarine
09-26-2009, 06:13 AM
thanks for all the info and i know it sounds like a lot of mods for a daily but its an addiction. and as far as the funds one deployment over seas and it'll be up too par. i might tone it down a tad.. if I make my 67 dart into a toy undecided witch one to get into...
Pete102580
09-26-2009, 07:27 AM
lol. i did a lot of parts shopping my first trip to iraq. by the time i got home it was like christmas in september.
semper fi
pete
Adobedude
09-26-2009, 02:11 PM
well heres the plan for my R/t its an 03 by the way, im gonna have the tranny built by Phoenix Transmission Products , do mono leafs and cal tracks in the rear , lose the spear put a 22gal fuel cell centered behind the axle. the rear is a toss up for me, beef up the bottom end and put some heads that can breath on the engine, and maybe single turbo. still no sure on that , I kinda like the pride of being naturally aspirated.
I relocated my rear shocks, and have monoleafs and catracs, detroit locker and 4.56 gears and QA1's. It dead hooks...off the line, NO spin.
I also have a 727 tranmission with an 8" 4000 stall converter. Weeeeeeeee!
But yoo do heads, you'll l need to do the intake, cam, bigger TB, headers exhaust...I'm the king of staying NA, everyone wants mt to spry my way into 11's....I'm at a DA that can be as high as 13000 ft, but the good air (6500') is right around the corner. Hope to see mid 12's all motor.
Here's some pics of my junk.
http://www.nmbuilder.com/Dakota_RT_mods.html
grapejuice1998
09-26-2009, 04:55 PM
keeping everything within the realm of everyday driver is the mopar performance ecu the way to go? i wanna do a tear down and just have enough ass to take a some pony cars down and maybe a couple 5.7 hemi's ya know make'em regret they spent 50k on a car..lol:drive:
For a relatively stock truck, I like the MP PCM just fine. If you can get one at a reasonable price, jump on it.
SCT isn't for everybody, IMO. If you plan to go big in the future, then I would consider it.
grapejuice1998
09-26-2009, 05:00 PM
May want to ask Duner what he thinks about his monoleafs...up to you. I don't think you're in the realm of needing them unless you're in the 11's or 10's. I think you wait a little bit on the Cal Tracs too.
I have pretty much run everything available at one time or another and I don't really like the mono leafs. I do like the Cal Tracs though. I run them with the Hotchkis 3" lowered leafs. The mono leafs actually slowed me down 60'-wise.
kenbarls
02-25-2011, 01:38 AM
600 bones for sct man a little steep , for a one time use product... anyone have any complaints with hypertech modules
Nothing to oppose.
WOW, bringing back threads for the dead. FWIW, SCT is no where near $600 anymore, and it's not one time use.
jweltch
02-25-2011, 06:32 AM
Price dropped a bit: $365 for unlimited tunes now from Sean.
Five9Dak
02-25-2011, 11:09 AM
For a relatively stock truck, I like the MP PCM just fine. If you can get one at a reasonable price, jump on it.
SCT isn't for everybody, IMO. If you plan to go big in the future, then I would consider it.
Agreed, they are cheap enough now. I've had mine for 6 years and it put down better numbers than 90% of SCT tuned bolt on trucks.
chaos2767
04-04-2011, 12:02 PM
Was thinking about the SCT but can someone tell me how it works! Im new to the R/T scene and am having to learn through all you guys!:hail:
My 99 is all stock.
dakfink
04-04-2011, 03:29 PM
http://www.sctflash.com/products.php?PID=9&VID=
mf360
04-04-2011, 03:36 PM
Was thinking about the SCT but can someone tell me how it works! Im new to the R/T scene and am having to learn through all you guys!:hail:
My 99 is all stock.
That will be one of your best bang-for-the-buck mods for sure. I'd recommend getting the lifetime tunes from Hemifever....it's well worth it. He is lightning fast to respond too.
Was thinking about the SCT but can someone tell me how it works! Im new to the R/T scene and am having to learn through all you guys!:hail:
My 99 is all stock.
It works like most hand held programmers such as Superchips, or Hypertech, but it allows you to get custom tunes specific for your truck as opposed to a one size fits most canned tune like Superchips or hypertech. As you add mods, you can get your tune adjusted for the mods. Once you get more than just your basic bolt ons like CAI, headers and a TB, you are already outside the capabilities of any canned tune to properly adjust for best performance.
dysfunctionall1
04-12-2011, 08:13 PM
So pretty much the over all outcome of this thread is that either buy the mp pcm or go with an sct tuner, its pointless to have both a mp pcm and sct tuner together?
Five9Dak
04-12-2011, 08:19 PM
Correct.
dysfunctionall1
04-12-2011, 08:45 PM
Alright, sounds good to me. Im still new to this, I was planning on getting the mp pcm but I will just wait until I get the exhaust, headers, intake manifold, tb, and cold air intake system and then buy the sct tuner. I dont really plan on doing much more than that, I want to keep mine an everyday driver too. Still debating on if I want to upgrade the heads and cams.
Five9Dak
04-12-2011, 11:16 PM
cam :-)
Adobedude
04-13-2011, 12:52 AM
cam :-)
Cams for me....One at a time.:biggthumpup:
RJ_Hythloday
04-13-2011, 03:44 AM
$375 right now for SCT with unlimited tweaks from Hemifever, or $275 for canned tunes with no tweaks. You can't touch a new hypertech or Superchips for that price and depending on your model year you'd have a hard time finding a used Mopar PCM.
I got my sct w/the prp package when it was on sale for $250, ended up paying hemifever for his tunes though, that $375 is a bargain. Get the SCT and don't look back. Or ditch the whole setup and get an old (80s) 911 carerra w/ a targa top and save your self a few grand and the hassle, lol :drive:
So pretty much the over all outcome of this thread is that either buy the mp pcm or go with an sct tuner, its pointless to have both a mp pcm and sct tuner together?
Haha, that's great, I've got a mpp, over wrote the tune w/ hemifevers, it was cheaper than a rebuilt stock pcm and couldn't find a stock one to buy from here at the time. Turns out my pcm was good. WHEN I part this pit out I could probably sell my sct w/ the prp and the pcm that goes w/ it, return the mpp to it's tune and recoup a little of the money I've spent.
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