Who Has Boost?

[Duner]

OK, let's get this part of the forum started!

Who's running boost?
From what? (turbo, Vortech, KB, etc.)
How much boost?
Intercooled?
Air/air?
Air/water?
Alcohol Injection?
What kind of fuel system?
What kind of controls?
How much power?
How fast did it get you?

Let's hear about everybody's combos!

[rattler360]

im runnung nitrous for now , planning on doing a turbo forged internal 408 soon. i have the following mods, full fuel return system, extrudehoned m1 intake with wilson manifolds nitrous spray bars installed, 1.7 hi tech roller rockers, pph headers, hi-flow cat, mopar perf. pcm, crane hi6r ignition with lx-92 coil,mbrp dakota gts stainless exhuast with roll pan,magnaflow muffler, 52mm billet tb,transgo shift kit,cold air kit, fiberglass front bumper, full hotchkis with qa-1s, kenny brown xbrace and caltracs,aluminum driveshaft, moser 31 spline axles with true trac unit 3.92 gears, custom built c&R racing aluminum radiator with 16 spal fan dual mode. waiting to go in is a scott brown custom cam 220/232 544/535 lift 112 lsa, with titanium retainers and speced double valve springs for cam, tct 3200rpm converter, and ported eddy heads.

[rattler360]

whats done to you black rt

[Jontoad]

powerdyne head unit
9lb pully
vortech t-rex inline pump
vortech 12:1 fmu
bosch bov
powerdyne performance pack (custom bracket to add stock belt spring tensioner, chrome upper and lower intake pipes)
extra intake pipe with bigger cone filter
24lb ford injectors
msd-6btm
second set of headgaskets runnin strong. lol.
yea it was a cheep head unit but im not made of money. it was fast enough for me.

never ran it at the track cause byron is the closest track and its like a hour and a half from here. if it broke that far away i would be pissed and i dont have a trailer. plus i have a driveline vibe at highway speeds i need to sort out.

[Axiom]

I'll be pushing a 150 shot down her throat sometime this summer once I get a few electrical and trans issues sorted out.

[SinCity R/T]

I'd love to have a turbo setup someday... nudge, nudge, nudge... lol

[White Turbo]

Hey Duner !!

You already know what I gots !!

Ed...

[brad99rt59]

I'd love to have a turbo setup someday... nudge, nudge, nudge... lol

X2!!!!!!!!!!!

[Duner]

Hey Duner !!

You already know what I gots !!

Ed...

I was wanting everybody to post up their combos so people would have some idea what's required vs the gains. 'Cause we all know BOOST RULES!!!!

[White Turbo]

Well Ok then... Geezz,, Let's see if I can remember everything..

Turbonetics T04E- 62-1 Turbo
Precision PT-600 Air to water intercooler
Tial 44-F wastegate
Tial blow off valve
Greddy electronic boost controller
Accel DFI engine management
Accel 54 lb. injectors
Forged bottom end
Built transmission
Plus the usual bolt-ons

11.25 @ 120.04 mph on a fat 4150 lb. club cab

[RTfreak]

OK, let's get this part of the forum started!

Who's running boost?
From what? (turbo, Vortech, KB, etc.)
How much boost?
Intercooled?
Air/air?
Air/water?
Alcohol Injection?
What kind of fuel system?
What kind of controls?
How much power?
How fast did it get you?

Let's hear about everybody's combos!


i have a saowaf boost set up
nets me a few psi, but the negatives outweigh the positives
:P
LMAO

[GrimRT]

Paxton Novi-2000
Forged, balanced 366
Shady Dell ported R/T 2.02/1.60 heads
236/240 .577/.577 114 cam
Full return fuel setup with custom tank, magnafuel pump and reg. 72lb inj.
M1 4-bbl
Accel 1350 cfm tb
Jess Dale headers
3.5" dual exhaust with x-pipe
Accel DFI
Viper fan
15 psi crank pulley

It would have run last year except the fuel pump went. Hoping to get out early in the spring.

[Mopar318]

Garrett T04E turbocharger (.70 AR compressor, 1.00 A/R turbine)
Home built manifolds and crossover
Home built built I/C piping
Tial 38mm wastegate (8# spring)
Wastegate dump
Blitz BOV
Home built 3" turbo back(no muffler or cat),
Front Mount intercooler. Core size 9.75"x14.5"x3.5"
4BBl M1
F&B 52mm TB
Aermotive Digital FMU
Aermotive Inline boost pump.
FMS 24# injectors
Apexi SAFC


No numbers yet. Blew the tranny up before I started the build. Went 13.3@ 104 mph with the supercharger (stock heads/cam/trans).

[Sick 660r]

Paxton sc
2bbl m1
magnaflow muffler
home ported stock tb
10.8 psi with the restrictor in the intake
11.7 a/f
paxton fuel setup using split second software and voltage clamp
3200 viper tc
transgo shift kit
426 rwhp, 435 rwtq

Had some issues with fuel cut and once I got everything fixed a/f droped down to low/mid 9. Took the restrictor out got 12-13 psi and the a/f went up to high 9's low 10's. Tried to reduce the fuel pressure but it started getting into the high 11's so I let it be. At this time I had never heard of washing down the cylinder walls and thats what ended up happening. Rings in 3 and 6 are fried. Having shady dell build me either a 418 or a 421 shortblock. Hope to have it running by spring

[Duner]

I guess I should post up mine also.

'99 RC R/T
Stock original '99 360 shortblock
Mopar Performance P4876257 ported heads 1.97" intake, 1.625" exhaust
Cometic head gaskets
New stock head bolts
Comp cams 230° duration, .480" lift
Rhoads V-Max lifters
Mopar Performance springs
Mopar Performance titanium retainers
Crane Gold 1.6 aluminum roller rockers
Trick Flow chrome moly pushrods
2 bbl M1 intake
Ported original stock throttle body
Garrett GT4202 turbo
CBE turbo header
CBE air/water intercooler airhat
Bosch blowoff valve
Tial 50mm wastegate
AEM Tru-Boost controller
3" downpipe to 3" magnaflow muffler
stock original 3" pipe from muffler back
MSD 6AL ignition with BTM and Blaster coil
MSD 8.5mm wires
Autolite 3923 plugs
Custom Zimmer PCM
Bosch 24# injectors
KB boost-a-pump
Holley 12-922 forced induction intank pump
MSD inline booster pump
Vortech 10:1 FMU with 4.6L top
Original trans with transgo shift kit
Precision Industries 4,000 stall convertor
Stock original 3.92 rearend
Hoosier 29x12.5x15 slicks
CalTracs Bars with split Mono-leaf Springs
QA1 Shocks
Fiberglass front bumper and rear rollpan
Buick GN electric fan
Race weight of 4050#

This combo is probably making right at 600rwhp.
Best 60' number so far : 1.58
Best 1/8 mile ET for this combo so far: 6.96
Best 1/4 mile ET for this combo so far: 10.98
Best 1/8 mile MPH for this combo so far: 100.55
Best 1/4 mile MPH for this combo so far: 125.78

What do all those numbers mean?
That I can't manage to put a completely good pass together with a best 60', ET and MPH all at the same time.
But I'm working on it!

[rattler360]

the original trans holds up to that power, id like to see picks of the turbo set up

[rattler360]

also how do you like the vmax lifters, i was thinking of getting a set for my new cam 220/232 544/536 112lsa

[Mopar318]

Heres a few of mine.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/Mopar318/Turboinstall027.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/Mopar318/Turboinstall029.jpg

[Duner]

The original trans lasted a very long time with just a TransGo shift kit in it.
I had the trans rebuilt about a year ago. I had some hardened parts and Kevlar bands put into it since I knew I was pushing it pretty hard.

Here's a couple of pics. All go, not much bling.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BlackDogCBE.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BDturboCBE.jpg

I think I need more hoses? hehehe

[rattler360]

yeah i think im going to have a turbo setup fabbed up, i do have a manifold from turbo technology, i want to see what it does with a 150shot and the new cam and heads first

[Duner]

also how do you like the vmax lifters, i was thinking of getting a set for my new cam 220/232 544/536 112lsa

While I hate the noise of them, they work awesome!
Idles nicely, crisp throttle response. Works especially nice in traffic where without them the size of the cam would make it not want to idle nice in gear. Now it just purrs. It also helped the off-the-bottom torque and throttle response.

[Mopar318]

Duner where do you get your couplers and shit. I figure theres a better route to go than the 20 dollar 90 degree silicone couplers that ive always used. I usually buy the silicone by the foot an make my own couplers. Still comes out to about 5 bucks a coupler.

[rattler360]

is that a garrett gt42r tubo duner

[Duner]

Hey guys, THANKS for posting up the info and pics of your setups!

There's no cheap way of getting the couplers.
The 90° elbow from the turbo to almost the intercooler is cut from a radiator hose for a semi.

Yes, that's a Garrett GT4202 with the turbine side swapped for a .96 A/R T4.
I did that so it would spool sooner. It might be costing me some in the upper rpm ranges, but it's all a compromise. Even with the big compressor, it will make full boost by 2800 rpm - just not instantly.

[rattler360]

ill have to dig out some of my engine pics, any info you guy can help me with when i fab up this turbo setup, i want to do liquid to air. also want to stud the heads , was head gaskets do you recommend i have cometics but not installed yet

[99blackrt]

Just in the middle of installing my Paxton Novi 2k polished kit. Don't have any real numbers to post up. Last time I went racing was 2yrs ago and I managed to get a 14.7 I think it was with only Spintech headers, true dual exhaust, 4.56s, M1 2bbl intake, and F&B 52mm TB. My best 60' I could pull was a 2.2.

Now I have 2.02r/t heads fully worked, 230ish cam, 58mm TB, working on getting a set of Jess Dale headers, true dual 3" exhaust, MP PCM, M1 2bbl intake, Viper 3000 converter, 4.56s, caltracs, line loc, and of course the Paxton Novi kit. Really hoping I can get this to hook and run some good numbers. Might end up sending my viper converter to be restalled hugher and well I fear my transmission probably won't hold past another year at which time I'll go with a smr 727 with gear vendor unit if I have the money. If not it will just be a smr 46re built unit.

[rattler360]

how much did you have to move in the engine bay to make it fit,Duner. so youd recommend the vmax lifters the other than the noise.

[Sick 660r]

Duner where did you get those vmax lifters?

[rattler360]

anyone see the new tvr motorsports kits

[Sick 660r]

anyone see the new tvr motorsports kits

yeah, a guy on dakota-durango.com has one. He may be the owner.

[Duner]

how much did you have to move in the engine bay to make it fit,Duner. so youd recommend the vmax lifters the other than the noise.

I had to gently persuade the AC lines some to get them away from the heat of the turbo, and my horns were in the way of where the air cleaner tube. That was pretty much it for moving stuff.

I highly recommend the vmax lifters - other than the noise.
I ordered the lifters directly from Rhoads on the internet.

That TVR kit looks like a clean install.

99blackrt - it sounds like that will be badass when you get it all together.

[rattler360]

do you think my new cam will work well with the turbo

[Duner]

do you think my new cam will work well with the turbo

While I keep reading about how a 106-108 lsa is supposed to be ideal for a turbo application, yours should work just fine I would think. Maybe not absolutely optimal, but then again, everything is a compromise.

[rattler360]

well i think it should work alright with the nitrous at least

[rattler360]

scott brown worked on it and i told him all my mods

[rattler360]

we speced it out so i didnt lose a ton of bottom end

[rattler360]

he seems really knowledgable, ive read alot of stuff on cams and duration, and lsa this will make the power i want now for what i have it should be pretty quick, i read you should choose a cam for the motor you have not the motor you want.

[brad99rt59]

I bought Jody's old motor so I could finally begin my boosted project.

Has:
-408 Stroker - receiver grooved/o-ringed - 8.3:1 compression - Diamond forged pistons - Eagle H beam rods - Mopar Cast 4' Crank - High volume Oil pump - Windage Tray - ARP Head Bolts and ARP Main Studs - Double Roller Timing Set - 4BBL M1 w/2BBL adapter - Morso Deep Sump Oil Pan

Cam is .605/.622 lift, 210/220 duration @50, cut on a 114 CL

R/T heads: Stage 3 port/polish - .700 springs - 2.02 intake/1.625 exhaust - comectic gaskets - stainless valves - Crane Gold Race 1.6 adjustable Rockers - Hardened Pushrods

im sure there is more im forgetting....but im just getting started...

Got a ways to go and plenty of cash flow to do so...im just waiting to get the motor before i start going crazy and buying things for it.

I do know that im going boosted (duh with that compression i dont have much a choice) but I havent decided on turbo build or supercharger.

I do know whatever I do is gonna run 16PSI with Acell DFI or FAST standalone, a good intercooler setup and meth injection.

its gonna take me longer than id like to due that im home 3 days every three weeks and i have to have most this work done for me so I dont fuck it up...

Open to suggestions though...

[Lederip]

From what? (turbo, Vortech, KB, etc.) Vortech V1-S-Trim

How much boost? 8-10#

Intercooled? In the works

Air/air? N/A

Air/water? Going to be a Bell InterCooler

Alcohol Injection? Snow Performance 50/50

What kind of fuel system? Cell-Aeromotive 1000-Full return

What kind of controls? BigStuff3 standalone

How much power? 525 hp

How fast did it get you? 11.3 at 123mph 1.7 60s

Ken

[Rtspeeddemon]

Okay here is my set-up. Dynoed 582 RWHP and 590 RWTQ. Race Weight a staggering 4,450 lbs

Best 1/4 ET to date 11.54@117.80
Best MPH 119.43
Best 60' only 1.78

408 stroker
Balanced/Blueprinted
Eagle 4340 Steel Crank
JE forged pistons 8.5-1.0
Eagle 4340 H-Beam rods
Federal Mogul Hellfire Rings
Clevite Bearings
Billet timing chain
Milodon Windage Tray
ARP Studs & Bolts throughout
Paxton Novi 2000 16lbs boost
MSD 8.5mm wires
M1 4bbl
58mm F&B (Changing TB this spring)
Crane Gold Stud Mount 1.6 RR
John M Long Tube Headers
Dual 3" exhaust
Cat's removed,
Flowmaster Super 40's
180 thermo
Autolight 3923's
KRC 236X cam .555/.575 236/242 dur (Changing cam this spring)
R/T 2.02 heads fully ported and o-ringed
75Lb Racetronics Injectors
Accel Gen 7 DFI
Snow Performance Methanol Injection
Custom Fuel system including aeromotive 1000 fuel pump
Precision Industies "Viper" convertor 4,000 stall
Moore Performance SRT hood
MT ET Streets 28x11.5x15
QA-1 drag shocks
Comp Eng Slide-a-links
B&M Quicksilver floor shifter
Auto meter ultra lite gauges
- Vacuum/Boost
- Fuel Pressure
- Tranny Temp
- 5" Monster Tach

[Rtspeeddemon]

I highly recommend the vmax lifters - other than the noise.


Duner how do these compare to Danno's modified lifters I am going to run his this spring with a new cam?

[KicknAsphlt]

OK, let's get this part of the forum started!

Who's running boost?
From what? (turbo, Vortech, KB, etc.)
How much boost?
Intercooled?
Air/air?
Air/water?
Alcohol Injection?
What kind of fuel system?
What kind of controls?
How much power?
How fast did it get you?

Let's hear about everybody's combos!

Paxton Novi2k Kit
Seen 11-12lbs no restrictor (yeah, needs a rebuild)
No Intercooler/Aftercooler...yet....heheh.
No Alky kit either...
Factory Fuel system + what comes with the kit, and 24lb FMS Injectors in the rails
MSD BTM and Paxtamap (comes with the kit) on a Mopar PCM
294HP, 349lb-ft to the ground, 1*/lb timing pulled off a Cali MP PCM, 91 Octane fuel, stock heads, cams, rockers, etc. w/ ragged out springs, and a most likely worn out Factory LSD.
All that fucked-upness netted me a 14.1@98 in Bremerton, with a 2.4 60' on street tires.

Working on resolving all issues, have also had the belt off for about a year and a half now. *sigh*

**Edit** Guess I should list my other mods, too....LOL!

M1 2bbl w/ Large Jeff Arnold Turtle
50mm F&B TB
Spintech Headers and 2.5" True Dual Exhaust
MSD 6A Ignition Box w/ Blaster 2 Coil (Box took a shit though, hence why the blower belt initially came off...so running stock ignition and coil for now)
Performance Rebuild on the Trans and stock Converter Beefed-up and Flashed 300-500RPM Higher

I think that's all the pertinent mods so far...

[R/T3]

Edelbrock R/T heads
M-1 Intake Manifold
55mm Throttle body
Forged bottom end
2 Tial 44 mm wastegates
Msd plug wire set
magnaflow dual 3 inch muffler
Huges performance racing trannsmission
MSD blaster coil
72lb fuel injectors
Twin T04R turbos
Long tube turbo manifolds

[lucky13]

current:
stock shortblock 318
powerdyne s/c @9lbs w/ auto-tensioner
Turbonetics airhat
custom crane cam
mildly ported pro action heads
MP PCM
MSD 6AL w/BTM
Hooker headers
MP 1.6 Roller Rockers
52mm TB
21lb FMS Injectors
T-rex inline pump w/fmu
Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch

Soon:
.030 Forged Bottom End 318 low comp
MP T-70 w/.96AR
Turbo XS 42MM Wastegate
Tial knockoff 50MM BOV
Ported 2.02 Pro-Action heads
24lb FMS Injectors
Holley Intank Pump w/T-rex Inline
Viper T56



I'm sure theres other stuff, but cant remember. I'm hoping for mid 11's, or faster!!

[Turbo47]

I guess I should post up mine also.
...
Bosch 24# injectors
...

"You serious Clark?"

LOL. What's your base pressure, 115?

[Duner]

"You serious Clark?"

LOL. What's your base pressure, 115?

While the pressure while in boost is certainly up there, the base pressure is 55-60 psi (depending upon temps)

[bad360rt]

Well, I don't have it anymore :( But here's what she used to have:

Paxton Novi-2000
15psi
Air/water intercooler (ice in the tank at the track)
SMC alcohol injection
Full return fuel setup
SAFC to trim the 30lb primary injectors
Dyno said 592rwhp, but I think it was a lil "happy" :)
11.31@120.39

The rest of the combo:
58mm F&B
4bbl M1
HS 1.7 rr's
MP shortblock (R/T cam)
Spintech headers
Spintech 2.5" duals
PowerDemon trans w/2800 stall
Bogarts front & rear (28x13.50 Hoosier QTPs)
Stock rear


Might go back to boost eventually, but for now I'll play with the bottle :)

[Turbo47]

While the pressure while in boost is certainly up there, the base pressure is 55-60 psi (depending upon temps)

Dayum, 600hp on 24#ers! So with a 12:1, yeah, 200psi of fuel ought to about do it. :D

I'm seeing about 70% duty cycle on 39#ers, 470rwhp actual, 50psi base, but only 62psi fuel as the regulator is 1:1.

I've also heard of guys removing the laser-welded discs in the injectors to open them up really fat. I think they essentially remove the bottom disc and the injector can flow up too its maximum flow capacity whether it was originally a 12 or 50 pounder,etc to begin with.

[Duner]

I run a 10:1 FMU plate, so the injectors get the full 120 psi or so 12 psi of boost. I think the injectors actually get blown open before it gets to the full 120 psi.

[Mopar318]

I run a 10:1 FMU plate, so the injectors get the full 120 psi or so 12 psi of boost. I think the injectors actually get blown open before it gets to the full 120 psi.

What size fuel line to the fuel rail? Im running what comes off the pump. 5/16". Hope its enough.

[Duner]

Yep, 5/16" fuel line the whole way.

[Turbo47]

Yep, 5/16" fuel line the whole way.

Not leaving a lot of room for error, LMAO. :biggthumpup: That kicks ass. "Yup, runs 10's on 24#ers and 5AN." :biggthumpup:

[Duner]

With stock head bolts, original stock cast pistons, crank, rods and the original throttle body. My fuel sync is off and my Autolite 3923's are old. I do have a NAPA brass cap and rotor. But no throttle body spacer.:burnout:

[rlg]

Who's running boost? I am!
From what? (turbo, Vortech, KB, etc.) ProCharger D1SC still with a 3.75" pulley, stock longblock, M1 2bbl, 53mm TB
How much boost? 15-17 psi
Intercooled? 3 core custom monster FMIC
Air/air? Yes
Air/water? No
Alcohol Injection? Not yet
What kind of fuel system? FMS 24 lb injectors, Aeromotive inline pump, 255lph Holley in-tank pump. My injectors are maxed out currently, so I need to step up on the management side of things.
What kind of controls? Just a flashed stock PCM
How much power? an older dyno showed 460 rwhp, 478 lb/ft. I want to dyno again with a few minor improvements. If I had the ability to tune anything, I think I could get closer to 500 on my setup
How fast did it get you? 12.1 @ 110

[magnuma1]

Who's running boost? I am!
From what? (turbo, Vortech, KB, etc.) ProCharger D1SC still with a 3.75" pulley, stock longblock, M1 2bbl, 53mm TB
How much boost? 15-17 psi
Intercooled? 3 core custom monster FMIC
Air/air? Yes
Air/water? No
Alcohol Injection? Not yet
What kind of fuel system? FMS 24 lb injectors, Aeromotive inline pump, 255lph Holley in-tank pump. My injectors are maxed out currently, so I need to step up on the management side of things.
What kind of controls? Just a flashed stock PCM
How much power? an older dyno showed 460 rwhp, 478 lb/ft. I want to dyno again with a few minor improvements. If I had the ability to tune anything, I think I could get closer to 500 on my setup
How fast did it get you? 12.1 @ 110


Can you post some pics of your setup for us to drool over.
Mike

[rlg]

I don't keep engine bays clean, so be nice. There's some things I want to change aesthetically like powdercoating and that radiator hose, but I've always wanted to go fast first and have things look good later:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/wankelslangin/DSC05931.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/wankelslangin/DSC05936.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/wankelslangin/DSC05933.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/wankelslangin/DSC05937.jpg

The sweet battery relocation that typer00_0371 on here did:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/wankelslangin/DSC01197.jpg

[BTLFED R/T]

GOOD LAWD! Clean that shit woman! :jester:

Haven't we taught you anything?! LOL

[rlg]

Haha those pictures ARE from November of 2006 so it is slightly cleaner than it once was. I cleaned it a lot when I put in Todd's port plates. However, there's pretty much no point on certain parts.

[1hotkadota]

I've always wanted to go fast first and have things look good later:



Spoken like a true racer:rockwoot:


Sorry guys, I got no forced induction yet. I'm sloooowww.:D

[DodgeSqD]

I will have boost . As soon as Marty gets the SCT To talk through the Security on the truck .
My list is .
01 Quad cab
Stock short block
M1 4bbl
Vortech V2 , 3" pully , 8 to 10 # boost
2 BAR map
Full return fuel
60 # Injectors
Gsm Headers , 2 1/2 Duel Exhaust
410 Gears
In a 4500 lb 4 door
Larry

[dakfink]

I got 2 Precision GT-76's sitting on the shelf!!!
I still need an Intercooler

I'm hoping to make 1500hp that's what I'm shooting for. Will be glad to hit 1200hp.

Should be looking at 23psi.

1999 Dak R/T RC
R-3 block= 468cui
W-9 RP Heads
Mopar and Sullivan Intake
AccuFab Lightning TB
Custom Headers
Tial W/Gs and BOV
BigStuff 3
Magna Fuel system
???????

[bad360rt]

I got 2 Precision GT-76's sitting on the shelf!!!
I still need an Intercooler

I'm hoping to make 1500hp that's what I'm shooting for. Will be glad to hit 1200hp.

Should be looking at 23psi.

1999 Dak R/T RC
R-3 block= 468cui
W-9 RP Heads
Mopar and Sullivan Intake
AccuFab Lightning TB
Custom Headers
Tial W/Gs and BOV
BigStuff 3
Magna Fuel system
???????

You forgot full suspension to try to get that power to the ground :biggthumpup:

[dakfink]

You forgot full suspension to try to get that power to the ground :biggthumpup:

NopeI didn't!!! My wallet did though!!!!$$$$$

LOL!!!

I'm still trying to figure out which way to go with that,
4-link, Cal-Tracs, or something else.

[BluRT00]

Paxton-Novi 2000 S/C
SCT fuel managment
Stock bottom end 5.9/heads
M1 2bbl Intake, 53 mm TB
Soon to have alky or meth injection to cool the charge
Viper 2 speed fan
3.5 inch exhaust.

Will have numbers by mid to end of this year. Been putting more goodies on it/ saving up to get it all right before drag strip. :drive:

[bad360rt]

NopeI didn't!!! My wallet did though!!!!$$$$$

LOL!!!

I'm still trying to figure out which way to go with that,
4-link, Cal-Tracs, or something else.

No kidding, I had to put the 727 on hold for that same reason. I'm thinking with the power that you're gonna be making either a 4 link or ladder bar setup is gonna be the way to go. Maybe even mini-tubbed with some really big meats out back.

[DodgeSqD]

Hey Dan
you didn't list your headers ? did you get some yet .
Who did your SCT tunning ?
Larry

[BluRT00]

Larry, Jody did the SCT tuning on the R/T. Still need to tune more once I put the new exhaust system in. Than add the alky, and or meth injection. Than off for more tuning. I found some pph headers for a steal acouple months ago, I couldn't walk away. Dan

[DodgeSqD]

I'm having Marty at KRC do the tuning on my truck with the SCT.
What size injectors do you have ?.
Did you find a 2 bar map ,or are you using auxrility injectors ?.
I would like to see your meth injection

Larry

[BluRT00]

I'm having Marty at KRC do the tuning on my truck with the SCT.
What size injectors do you have ?.
Did you find a 2 bar map ,or are you using auxrility injectors ?.
I would like to see your meth injection

Larry


At the moment running the stock injectors for the 2000, and have 2 auxrility injectiors. The meth seems to be a cheaper method to race gas in my book, and have read alot of sites where guys with cobra's, serious LS1's are running it. Dan

[dakfink]

No kidding, I had to put the 727 on hold for that same reason. I'm thinking with the power that you're gonna be making either a 4 link or ladder bar setup is gonna be the way to go. Maybe even mini-tubbed with some really big meats out back.

I just got off the phone with S&W about an Hour ago and it will be $2500 for a back half with everything except Brakes and the 9" center section. Not Bad at all. But my Rims and Tires have to go.

tranni will be $4000 for an 1800hp PG. OUCH!!!!!!

[Lederip]

I just got off the phone with S&W about an Hour ago and it will be $2500 for a back half with everything except Brakes and the 9" center section. Not Bad at all. But my Rims and Tires have to go.

tranni will be $4000 for an 1800hp PG. OUCH!!!!!!

You can keep your Rims and tires. I'm doing a Strange 9" right now with a 6 x4.5 axle. Wilwood makes a 4 disk caliper that works with the 6 X 4.5 bolt pattern. Its a two piece Rotor/Hat. around $800 for brakes.
Ken

[dakfink]

I can keep them BUT I don't really want to. i found some I like better.

On a side note do you know exactlly which brakes Them Is????
Link or P/N in case I do stay with these odd ball bolt patterns?????

Thanks man!!!

[DodgeSqD]

Hey Ken
This is Larry . I met you at the last years Nats . ( I was driving the 3500 Ram ) .
Well I have the dakota running with a stock 5.9 and Vorteck V-2 Tuned with SCT.
The truck dynoed at 410 Hp 430 TQ with 12.23 Lbs of boost at 5800rpm .
With stock heads and m1 4bbl ,and 58 mm TB .
What size cam and heads do you run ?
What cfm does a vorteck push ?
I know my heads are the restrictions here , the boost pressure showes that .
Just gaining knoledge here.
Larry :drive:

[Lederip]

I can keep them BUT I don't really want to. i found some I like better.

On a side note do you know exactlly which brakes Them Is????
Link or P/N in case I do stay with these odd ball bolt patterns?????

Thanks man!!!

There are two part numbers that work. 140-7140 which is a one piece rotor and parking brake. You need to order it undrilled. The 140-6292 is a two piece design, disk and hat. you need to get the hat un-drilled. Then you can have them drilled to any pattern. I went with the two piece. I'm running a Strange 9" with a 35 spline axle. It is Big Ford, New style with a 2.5 offset. The caliper is a four disk aluminum.
The best place (maybe the only place) I found to order them from is hotrodusa

[Lederip]

Hey Ken
This is Larry . I met you at the last years Nats . ( I was driving the 3500 Ram ) .
Well I have the dakota running with a stock 5.9 and Vorteck V-2 Tuned with SCT.
The truck dynoed at 410 Hp 430 TQ with 12.23 Lbs of boost at 5800rpm .
With stock heads and m1 4bbl ,and 58 mm TB .
What size cam and heads do you run ?
What cfm does a vorteck push ?
I know my heads are the restrictions here , the boost pressure showes that .
Just gaining knoledge here.
Larry :drive:

Hi Larry,
I know who you are!!!! Your the one who changes a M1 in the parking lot:burnout:. I run a 145 - 155 @ .600 at a 108 centerline. The heads are 2.02 R/T from KRC. The Vortech pushes 1000 cfm. I can sent you all of the specs if you want.

It look like your making nice power. My 360 made 424hp with the KRC heads but different cam. The bigstuff (tune) and 408 bumped it up to 525hp at 8# of boost. I still am underdriving -3.25 dia pulley, blower spins at~46000 rpms- the supercharger right now.

You better bring that truck to Detroit in August.

Good hearing from you, Hope everyone is doing GREAT.
Ken

[DodgeSqD]

That guy needed a hand , Then won the rims in the raffle !:doh:
Send over the specs . Every thing is different when supercharged .
I have a set of 2.02 R/T heads setting on the shelf .When I get a cam these will go on . I am using a 3.12 pully on the blower .
Robert (RED 99 R/T) and I will be there for the meet . Looking for a 38' 2 car trailor in case we break something .
Larry

[WhiteRT]

Hi Larry,
I know who you are!!!! Your the one who changes a M1 in the parking lot:burnout:. I run a 145 - 155 @ .600 at a 108 centerline. The heads are 2.02 R/T from KRC. The Vortech pushes 1000 cfm. I can sent you all of the specs if you want.

It look like your making nice power. My 360 made 424hp with the KRC heads but different cam. The bigstuff (tune) and 408 bumped it up to 525hp at 8# of boost. I still am underdriving -3.25 dia pulley, blower spins at~46000 rpms- the supercharger right now.

You better bring that truck to Detroit in August.

Good hearing from you, Hope everyone is doing GREAT.
Ken

Hey Ken,

I PM'd you, not sure if you got it .....

Do you have the stock 3.125 blower pulley around? If so I have cash, need some? LOL! :biggthumpup:

I bought a T-Trim for my vortech kit and need a pulley for it :burnout:

Todd

[NightmareR/T]

The original trans lasted a very long time with just a TransGo shift kit in it.
I had the trans rebuilt about a year ago. I had some hardened parts and Kevlar bands put into it since I knew I was pushing it pretty hard.

Here's a couple of pics. All go, not much bling.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BlackDogCBE.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BDturboCBE.jpg

I think I need more hoses? hehehe

What intercooler are you running? What i mean, is did you fab that up and where do you have the ice-box at? in the engine compartment or in the bed?

[Duner]

Yes, I fabbed the intercooler/airhat from one of these:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/AWICfront.jpg

I have a 4-gallon ice-box (summit fuel cell) mounted in the bed. It holds a full 20# bag of ice and melts every single cube down to nothing but water on a single pass during the summer. The water is still cool at the end, but no more ice.

[NightmareR/T]

Yes, I fabbed the intercooler/airhat from one of these:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/AWICfront.jpg

I have a 4-gallon ice-box (summit fuel cell) mounted in the bed. It holds a full 20# bag of ice and melts every single cube down to nothing but water on a single pass during the summer. The water is still cool at the end, but no more ice.

Thats what i thought it looked like, i like that. You did a good job on the welding because it looks like that intercooler came like that.

[magnuma1]

The original trans lasted a very long time with just a TransGo shift kit in it.
I had the trans rebuilt about a year ago. I had some hardened parts and Kevlar bands put into it since I knew I was pushing it pretty hard.

Here's a couple of pics. All go, not much bling.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BlackDogCBE.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BDturboCBE.jpg

I think I need more hoses? hehehe

Where did you mount the coil?
Mike

[Duner]

You can just see the coil to the left of the intercooler, between the firewall and the PCM.

Sheesh, just looking at those pictures.... what a snakes nest of wires and hoses that thing is.

[magnuma1]

You can just see the coil to the left of the intercooler, between the firewall and the PCM.

Sheesh, just looking at those pictures.... what a snakes nest of wires and hoses that thing is.

What coil type is that?
Mike

[Duner]

It's an MSD Blaster.

[magnuma1]

It's an MSD Blaster.

1 last question. Is your turbo oil drain going to your oil pan? If so, was it easy to tap? I need to do mine and I've been hearing wild stories about taping the oil pan.
Mike

[Duner]

Yes, it goes to my pan.

It was also pretty easy to do.... if you have the right tools at hand.

Locate hole location above oil level in pan.

Drill 1/4" hole with grease on the drill bit.

Use air hammer with pointed tip to make hole larger and roll the material inside to use for threads.

Use appropriate tap with grease on it to tap the pan.

Thread fitting into pan.

Attach return line to fitting.

Drain oil.

Replace oil.

Drive it like you stole it! hehehe

I basically repeated all those steps about 35 or 40 times in the past year on customer's vehicles at Unleashed Motorsports. We specialized in custom turbo applications.

[magnuma1]

Yes, it goes to my pan.

It was also pretty easy to do.... if you have the right tools at hand.

Locate hole location above oil level in pan.

Drill 1/4" hole with grease on the drill bit.

Use air hammer with pointed tip to make hole larger and roll the material inside to use for threads.

Use appropriate tap with grease on it to tap the pan.

Thread fitting into pan.

Attach return line to fitting.

Drain oil.

Replace oil.

Drive it like you stole it! hehehe

I basically repeated all those steps about 35 or 40 times in the past year on customer's vehicles at Unleashed Motorsports. We specialized in custom turbo applications.

I read the vortech instructions and they say to use different size punch to make the hole larger, then pan it. You used a drill bit then punched the hole larger then taped it. Does it really matter which way you do it? Also the vortech instructions say to rotate the engine so that the crank shaft is sout of the way when you make your hole in the pan. Is this part really nessary?
Mike

[Duner]

I've never read the Vortech instruction.

I don't know that it would make a whole bunch of difference how you did it. As long as you had material there after making the hole larger to cut threads into. You don't want to just drill a big hole and try and thread it because the pan material isn't thick enough to cut enough threads into to tighten and seal against. You will also not want to completely bury the pipe tap in the hole when making the threads. You want your new fitting to be snug. I never worried about hitting the crank because I wasn't going that deep into the hole with any of the tools.

[rattler360]

duner do you think if i do forged internals, a stud girdle, 4 bolt main conversion the block with be ok with a gt42r

[Mopar318]

duner do you think if i do forged internals, a stud girdle, 4 bolt main conversion the block with be ok with a gt42r

My truck now has 150k miles, stock internals, and the last 30k miles of it was plastering it with 10 lbs of boost with the paxton. The better question is, can you tune?

[Duner]

duner do you think if i do forged internals, a stud girdle, 4 bolt main conversion the block with be ok with a gt42r

How much power do you want to make?

The GT42R will certainly make a bunch of power if you have all the other elements of the system in place. The size of the turbo won't be the deciding factor when it comes to reliability or longevity. My understanding is that like most things on our trucks.... not all of the components are always the same. All forged internals and an upgraded block should be a bunch stronger than the stock parts.

[rattler360]

well yes forged internals will be strong, just wondering if block can handle the abuse, figure a 408 with turbo 800 horse

[Duner]

My understanding is that no two blocks are exactly the same.
People report the blocks breaking at the 500 flywheel hp level, while others make much more on the stock stuff without adding girdles, 4-bolt mains or block filler. The common reported "don't cross that line" number on the internet has always been 500 hp. I don't know if that was at the flywheel or rear wheels.

So far I've gotten away with roughly 600 rwhp which is possibly somewhere in the 700 hp range at the flywheel(?) with all of the stock parts. Will the block split at 701? I don't know... I sure hope not. That's kind of why I was asking in the other thread if anybody really knew what the drivetrain loss was. That way we'd have a better understanding about how much they actually make at the flywheel.

So to answer the question of whether the block can handle 800 hp?
It's anybody's guess. I'm sure hoping mine will!

[rattler360]

i think it all depends on how you tune it

[bad360rt]

It's possible, but then it comes to walking a very thin line on the tuning, and knowing that it could pop at any moment. If you're doing like Duner and pushing it on a stock bottom end, by all means, keep pushing it. If it breaks, then you build something stronger.

But for folks that are dropping money into a forged bottom end, I think they should take some time to think about where they want to go, and if it's really worth risking the $4-5k you just put into forged parts and labor. Because if the block really lets go, chances are, the forged parts you just put into it aren't going to be reusable. Granted, most of the block failures so far haven't been catastrophic, luckily, but it's always possible. I think that's also because there's only a handful of people that are pushing stock blocks to that level. But you can have a pretty reliable 550-600rwhp setup with a stock block, and that's a lot of power in a street truck.

I say if you're really looking to make 800hp (rw?), invest in an R3 (if you can find one), or wait for the XR, and do it right. Then you won't have to worry on every pass down the track if this is gonna be the one where you're picking up parts off the track.

[Rtspeeddemon]

All I know is they break. Mine cracked the top deck last year between a water jacket a head bolt hole and yes tune was dead on.

Would have love to gone R3 this year but none to be found. So going another used magnum block and will add a hughes main girdle for a little extra support and hope for the best.

[rattler360]

im waiting on the xr1 block to do the turbo etc.. i think i should be ok and pretty fast with what i have now

[SuperTrux]

Who's running boost?-----------------ME ME ME :D
From what? (turbo, Vortech, KB, etc.)-Kenne Bell w/ 6# and 9#
How much boost?--------------------6# and 9#
Intercooled?-------------------------Not yet :( LT's first
Air/air?------------------------------Nope
Air/water?---------------------------Nope
Alcohol Injection?--------------------Coming Soon
What kind of fuel system?------------Stock. Bone friggin' stock
What kind of controls?---------------MP Computer, KB Optimizer
How much power?-------------------Estimated 400rwhp on 6#'s with 50 shot
How fast did it get you?-------------maybe 12.7 on spray and boost with traction?

Havent got a chance to run it at the track yet. Just got it back. :D

[magnuma1]

So if I were looking to tune the FMU route, for a vortech V1 S-Trim supercharger, what components are needed to make this happen? Please list all items I would need to get. I am looking at all options right now. Tuning with the SCT thing is a pain I've been told. I have a 1999 Dakota R/T.
Mike

[magnuma1]

Who's running boost? I am!
From what? (turbo, Vortech, KB, etc.) ProCharger D1SC still with a 3.75" pulley, stock longblock, M1 2bbl, 53mm TB
How much boost? 15-17 psi
Intercooled? 3 core custom monster FMIC
Air/air? Yes
Air/water? No
Alcohol Injection? Not yet
What kind of fuel system? FMS 24 lb injectors, Aeromotive inline pump, 255lph Holley in-tank pump. My injectors are maxed out currently, so I need to step up on the management side of things.
What kind of controls? Just a flashed stock PCM
How much power? an older dyno showed 460 rwhp, 478 lb/ft. I want to dyno again with a few minor improvements. If I had the ability to tune anything, I think I could get closer to 500 on my setup
How fast did it get you? 12.1 @ 110

So the only thing controling your setup is a reflashed PCM? No FMU or anything?
Mike

[Ryacuski]

I guess I should post up mine also.

'99 RC R/T
Stock original '99 360 shortblock
Mopar Performance P4876257 ported heads 1.97" intake, 1.625" exhaust
Cometic head gaskets
New stock head bolts
Comp cams 230° duration, .480" lift
Rhoads V-Max lifters
Mopar Performance springs
Mopar Performance titanium retainers
Crane Gold 1.6 aluminum roller rockers
Trick Flow chrome moly pushrods
2 bbl M1 intake
Ported original stock throttle body
Garrett GT4202 turbo
CBE turbo header
CBE air/water intercooler airhat
Bosch blowoff valve
Tial 50mm wastegate
AEM Tru-Boost controller
3" downpipe to 3" magnaflow muffler
stock original 3" pipe from muffler back
MSD 6AL ignition with BTM and Blaster coil
MSD 8.5mm wires
Autolite 3923 plugs
Custom Zimmer PCM
Bosch 24# injectors
KB boost-a-pump
Holley 12-922 forced induction intank pump
MSD inline booster pump
Vortech 10:1 FMU with 4.6L top
Original trans with transgo shift kit
Precision Industries 4,000 stall convertor
Stock original 3.92 rearend
Hoosier 29x12.5x15 slicks
CalTracs Bars with split Mono-leaf Springs
QA1 Shocks
Fiberglass front bumper and rear rollpan
Buick GN electric fan
Race weight of 4050#

This combo is probably making right at 600rwhp.
Best 60' number so far : 1.58
Best 1/8 mile ET for this combo so far: 6.96
Best 1/4 mile ET for this combo so far: 10.98
Best 1/8 mile MPH for this combo so far: 100.55
Best 1/4 mile MPH for this combo so far: 125.78

What do all those numbers mean?
That I can't manage to put a completely good pass together with a best 60', ET and MPH all at the same time.
But I'm working on it!


Hey Duner, that's a shit load of mods. You lift the wheels at launch?:mods:

[Duner]

Well it's a long list anyway.
A good portion of the list is describing the stock parts I'm still running.

[99dakRT]

Well it's a long list anyway.
A good portion of the list is describing the stock parts I'm still running.

A noticed your still running a 2 bbl M1.. Do you think with the kinda numbers your putting down that you'd benefit from a 4 bbl?? Just curious

[Duner]

I think it probably would go quicker with a 4bbl M1 and bigger TB. I haven't gone that route yet simply because of lack of funds... and the fact that I probably don't have enough fuel system to make much more power without risking parts. I think more air flow at this point would just lead to a lean condition.

All I need is more money, time, parts and smarts.
Did I mention money? LOL
:burnout:

[Mopar318]

I think it probably would go quicker with a 4bbl M1 and bigger TB. I haven't gone that route yet simply because of lack of funds... and the fact that I probably don't have enough fuel system to make much more power without risking parts. I think more air flow at this point would just lead to a lean condition.

All I need is more money, time, parts and smarts.
Did I mention money? LOL
:burnout:

For the money the 2BBls are going for, you could sell yours 2Bbl, and get enough to buy a 4BBl, and a F&B.

[99dakRT]

I think it probably would go quicker with a 4bbl M1 and bigger TB. I haven't gone that route yet simply because of lack of funds... and the fact that I probably don't have enough fuel system to make much more power without risking parts. I think more air flow at this point would just lead to a lean condition.

All I need is more money, time, parts and smarts.
Did I mention money? LOL
:burnout:

Yeah, I hear you about the money.. I have my whole turbo build piled up right now and I cant afford my 54# injectors and 2 BAR MAP.. Thats the only thing I still need..

After I get my stimulus check, its on:D

[ProchargedR/T]

2000 R/C R/T
P600B@ 10lbs
intercooled
408 RWHP @ 5000rmp
445 torque @ 4400
12.79 @111
60' 1.995

3", X pipe, spintechs next week
then work on the fuel....just had it dyno'd today and was 13.0 A/F @5000. Added more fuel via split second and no real change under boost????
58mm TB next
SCT tune to finish

[Rtspeeddemon]

2000 R/C R/T
P600B@ 10lbs
intercooled
408 RWHP @ 5000rmp
445 torque @ 4400
12.79 @111
60' 1.995

3", X pipe, spintechs next week
then work on the fuel....just had it dyno'd today and was 13.0 A/F @5000. Added more fuel via split second and no real change under boost????
58mm TB next
SCT tune to finish

13.0 is a dangerous air/fuel level so certainly get it down to 11.5-11.8.

[Mopar318]

2000 R/C R/T
P600B@ 10lbs
intercooled
408 RWHP @ 5000rmp
445 torque @ 4400
12.79 @111
60' 1.995

3", X pipe, spintechs next week
then work on the fuel....just had it dyno'd today and was 13.0 A/F @5000. Added more fuel via split second and no real change under boost????
58mm TB next
SCT tune to finish


that's probably because your making good power on your lean mixture. But its not safe one bit.:nono:

[bad360rt]

2000 R/C R/T
P600B@ 10lbs
intercooled
408 RWHP @ 5000rmp
445 torque @ 4400
12.79 @111
60' 1.995

3", X pipe, spintechs next week
then work on the fuel....just had it dyno'd today and was 13.0 A/F @5000. Added more fuel via split second and no real change under boost????
58mm TB next
SCT tune to finish

As mentioned, please get more fuel in that thing. And I'd stay out of boost until you can. At 13.0 it's a ticking time bomb. You need to be at least a full point richer, mid-high 11's would be perfect as KJ mentioned.

I'd go really easy on it until you get the SCT tune finished and your a/f is where it needs to be. :biggthumpup: