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bad360rt
02-23-2008, 06:00 PM
Ok folks, we're gonna try something new, instead of waiting till the last minute to get the planning started for the Nats, we're gonna start now :)

The new plan for National Meet proposals is to have proposals for the following year submitted three months prior to the current year's meet. That way we can pick the best proposal (assuming we get more than one) and have details worked out in time to announce next year's National Meet at this year's meet. That way everyone will have plenty of time to plan their vacation, and the club will also have time to try to get magazine coverage, as well as work with sponsors to get great prizes for the meet.

Next year's Nats will be in the West, so that's Division 6 & 7. We will be accepting proposals until May 1st, so that gives you a little over two months to get a package together. Now I'm sure most of you are wondering just what needs to be in a proposal, here's what we are looking for:

Dates
Track rental info
Autox location
Show & Shine location
Estimated costs for all of the above, if possible
Primary and backup hotel info
Theme

Please submit your proposal to me, either via pm or e-mail (bad425rt@yahoo.com) and on May 1st I will post a poll so that the membership can vote on which proposal they want.

Once a proposal is picked, you will then have three months to work on nailing down the details, getting the track booked, getting hotel costs, etc. We can make this work, but it's going to be up to the Reps and members in each division to make it happen. So all you west coast guys, get to work and let's see what you can come up with :biggthumpup:

GoFastGray
02-23-2008, 06:59 PM
only problem for me will be getting 2009 prices, but current prices will give us a ball park quote.
time to pull out all my 2008 numbers and papers :biggthumpup:

bad360rt
02-23-2008, 10:24 PM
only problem for me will be getting 2009 prices, but current prices will give us a ball park quote.
time to pull out all my 2008 numbers and papers :biggthumpup:

Thanks Kevin. I know the prices can be hard to nail down sometimes, but a good estimate will help when deciding which proposal to go with, since it will determine what we have to charge for admission. When you have your proposal ready, please send it to me, then when we have all the proposals on May 1st, we'll post up a poll so the membership can vote on which proposal they like the best. :biggthumpup:

DakotaLivLrg
02-24-2008, 12:00 AM
only problem for me will be getting 2009 prices, but current prices will give us a ball park quote.
time to pull out all my 2008 numbers and papers :biggthumpup:

Kevin let me know if I can help with anything I know you have checked out firebird for one of your ideas... maybe I can work on it with ya since I know its not easy work:biggthumpup:

grapejuice1998
02-24-2008, 10:21 PM
As it is right now, how long before Div 4 could put in a bid?

bad360rt
02-24-2008, 10:37 PM
As it is right now, how long before Div 4 could put in a bid?

Next year will be West (Div 6/7), then East for 2010 (Div 1/2), and then Central for 2011 (Div 3/4/5). So in early 2010, we'll be looking for proposals from Div 3/4/5 for the 2011 meet. :biggthumpup:

y2krtaf
02-24-2008, 10:38 PM
Kevin let me know if I can help with anything I know you have checked out firebird for one of your ideas... maybe I can work on it with ya since I know its not easy work:biggthumpup:
Don't forget about speed world guys.

GoFastGray
02-24-2008, 11:26 PM
Don't forget about speed world guys.

I got them on my list already, Gary ;)

grapejuice1998
02-25-2008, 01:24 AM
Next year will be West (Div 6/7), then East for 2010 (Div 1/2), and then Central for 2011 (Div 3/4/5). So in early 2010, we'll be looking for proposals from Div 3/4/5 for the 2011 meet. :biggthumpup:

I guess we'll always end up suckin hind tit.

Trueblue R/T
02-25-2008, 02:09 AM
I guess we'll always end up suckin hind tit.

I agree..I think the west ought to be 4,5,6,7 Bummer..

BTLFED R/T
02-25-2008, 03:36 AM
That's cool, let's do another one in 5 next year! :biggthumpup:

Trueblue R/T
02-25-2008, 04:35 AM
doesn't that half a micky d sign you have say gateway to the west..LOL

bad360rt
04-07-2008, 12:30 PM
Hope you west coast guys are working hard on your proposals, less than a month left :D

rattler360
04-07-2008, 06:54 PM
We Should Go To The Motor Sport Ranch In Texas

SinCity R/T
04-07-2008, 08:19 PM
Hope you west coast guys are working hard on your proposals, less than a month left :D

I'll be talking to the guys at Firebird Raceway in person in 3 weeks (if I can get my truck running again). I have a new contact there who seems much more receptive to communication.

GoFastGray
04-15-2008, 09:04 PM
Anyone else in Div. 7 working on proposals? Need help? Want to help? Have idea's or places of interest?
Almost time to get the proposals off to Dave :burnout:

jw02rcrt
08-28-2008, 09:33 PM
Dave, If this falls through, I have a plan for Carlisle, PA for next year.

BryanRT360
08-29-2008, 12:09 AM
jack, let me know if you need any help

jw02rcrt
08-29-2008, 12:57 PM
email sent!

Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay
08-29-2008, 01:05 PM
jack, let me know if you need any help


yeah, me too. always willing to help.

Adobedude
08-29-2008, 01:59 PM
Ok folks, we're gonna try something new, instead of waiting till the last minute to get the planning started for the Nats, we're gonna start now :)

The new plan for National Meet proposals is to have proposals for the following year submitted three months prior to the current year's meet. That way we can pick the best proposal (assuming we get more than one) and have details worked out in time to announce next year's National Meet at this year's meet. That way everyone will have plenty of time to plan their vacation, and the club will also have time to try to get magazine coverage, as well as work with sponsors to get great prizes for the meet.

Next year's Nats will be in the West, so that's Division 6 & 7. We will be accepting proposals until May 1st, so that gives you a little over two months to get a package together. Now I'm sure most of you are wondering just what needs to be in a proposal, here's what we are looking for:

Dates
Track rental info
Autox location
Show & Shine location
Estimated costs for all of the above, if possible
Primary and backup hotel info
Theme

Please submit your proposal to me, either via pm or e-mail (bad425rt@yahoo.com) and on May 1st I will post a poll so that the membership can vote on which proposal they want.

Once a proposal is picked, you will then have three months to work on nailing down the details, getting the track booked, getting hotel costs, etc. We can make this work, but it's going to be up to the Reps and members in each division to make it happen. So all you west coast guys, get to work and let's see what you can come up with :biggthumpup:


Tow vehicle + car trailer = ???

RTchas
08-30-2008, 02:04 AM
I would like to toss my hat into this ring as well !! What ever you may need me to do I'm in!:biggthumpup:

rattler360
08-30-2008, 03:40 AM
I Say The Motorsports Ranch In Texas

1LoudRT
09-01-2008, 06:19 AM
Well The meet has passed- Has anyone came up with a vedict yet???????? If I know before mid- Oct then I'll be able to make it- Seems I have to put my vacation request dates for next year in by Oct 21st. I'm sure some other people on here also need to plan ahead so the sooner the better- and Please make it a confirmed date that is not subject to change. Thanks guys!

RTdingo7
09-01-2008, 01:29 PM
Well The meet has passed- Has anyone came up with a vedict yet???????? If I know before mid- Oct then I'll be able to make it- Seems I have to put my vacation request dates for next year in by Oct 21st. I'm sure some other people on here also need to plan ahead so the sooner the better- and Please make it a confirmed date that is not subject to change. Thanks guys!

I'm with Josh, what's up??? The place in Texas does looks great http://www.motorsportranch.com/

grapejuice1998
09-02-2008, 03:38 PM
I Say The Motorsports Ranch In Texas

Unfortunately, you'll have to wait until 2011 for a chance at a Texas meet.

uwntsumrtII
09-02-2008, 03:42 PM
email sent!

i can help to if needed.

wigleym
09-12-2008, 02:10 AM
Where ever the meet is it needs to be a big meet in conjunction with something else. I'm a big Dak R/T fan, have owned 3, and attended one meet in houston, which was cool, but nothing to make me jump in my truck and drive across the US to go to another meet. Someone needs to look at hosting these with larger events. Since I'm a Texan, one thing that comes to mind is Texas Heat Wave in Austin, usually held in July and they have a drag strip on the grounds. This venue brings in thousands of folks and could benefit the club as a whole. Texas aint due till 2011, but need to find something comparible for the next few years. My two cents on locations.

1LoudRT
09-12-2008, 04:54 AM
:biggthumpup: Great Input!!!

grapejuice1998
09-12-2008, 04:56 PM
I have always said that one central location would draw more people each year, but these days, everyone wants to be pleased, so the club's moving them here and there. I'll bet if it was in say, Topeka, or another easy to get to spot, the meet would grow and grow, because the things we do would be well established. The places we race, the places we eat, drink, party, street race, titty bars, etc, all would gain in popularity as years go by. Instead we start all over each year and there's no legacy to it.

dakotabluert98
09-12-2008, 10:56 PM
I have always said that one central location would draw more people each year, but these days, everyone wants to be pleased, so the club's moving them here and there. I'll bet if it was in say, Topeka, or another easy to get to spot, the meet would grow and grow, because the things we do would be well established. The places we race, the places we eat, drink, party, street race, titty bars, etc, all would gain in popularity as years go by. Instead we start all over each year and there's no legacy to it.


great points, especially then one about the titty bars:biggthumpup:

grapejuice1998
09-12-2008, 11:35 PM
great points, especially then one about the titty bars:biggthumpup:

You shoulda been there when we had the Nats in Topeka. The titty bars were BUCK NAKED!! Woohoo!!! :woot:

The street racing was phenomenal too. Martin Tractor FTW!! :burnout:

That was possibly the best meet ever.

mtlcafan79
09-13-2008, 01:20 AM
I'm trying to do the same for fall Cecil. The highway 100' from my house has street racing all the time. Titties are 5 min away. I and others can vouch that those girls work hard for their money. They even know Mopar! lol... Fall Cecil here we come. =)

ChrisR/T
09-16-2008, 03:53 PM
I'll stand behind Mtlcafan.

Those girls work hard for their money. Also, there is a certain stripper that looks a bit like Hillary Duff, and knows what Mopar is....

GoFastGray
09-16-2008, 04:37 PM
I'll stand behind Mtlcafan.

Those girls work hard for their money. Also, there is a certain stripper that looks a bit like Hillary Duff, and knows what Mopar is....

I don't ever recall going in to a strip club and starting a conversation about my truck/cars...:jester:
I don't care if she owns a 10sec R/T...I want to see some T&A :woot:

mtlcafan79
09-16-2008, 04:40 PM
Well, she was the one that intiated the Mopar conversation.

Heavy D
09-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Where ever the meet is it needs to be a big meet in conjunction with something else. .

I agree. You need to tie the event with something else. This year with the woodward dream crusie was great. Not only did I get the hang out with a great bunch of guys and have fun. But the dream crusie was off the hook. It was so much fun that I think I'm going back next year for it. Even the Houston event had a mopar race happening the same time.

Without something else it's going to be hard to get people to drive long distances.

GoFastGray
09-16-2008, 05:59 PM
Well, she was the one that intiated the Mopar conversation.

Sure she was :nana:

mtlcafan79
09-16-2008, 06:36 PM
I'll let Chris tell this one...

ChrisR/T
09-16-2008, 06:56 PM
Sure she was :nana:

Well, she was the one that intiated the Mopar conversation.

She was actually.

Greg A, Mtlcafan, and myself went to McDoogals (sp?) one night after a spring Div. 1 meet. Greg A and myself took a liking to a certain entertainer that looked like Ms. Duff. Tall, Blonde, pretty face and GREAT T&A....

Anyway, I end up getting a lapdance, i was wearing a Mopar shirt, here's where the story gets goofy.

She asks me what I do for a living, and I tell her, I work for yadda-yadda (it's a pretty common thing I do), and she looks at me with this deer-in-the-headlights look like she had no idea what I was talking about....keep in mind, this is going on while I'm getting a lapdance...

So, then she notices the "M" on my shirt and the words MOPAR under it...asks me if I'm buying one of those new cars and getting gas for 2.99, i said no, I already have a few....she asks me what I have and not wanting to tell/explain to her I drive a PT Cruiser, I tell her:

"Just one of those turbo 4 bangers...."

Without even thinking about it she goes,.."oh so you drive one of those...those, skittle cars?"

"Skittles?" I say...(knowing she was talking about SRT4 neons)

"Yeah, you know, those loud turbo neons"...

"Yeah, something like that"...

She smiles, says thats cool, finishes the lapdance, and chats with me a bit more....

We all had a good laugh about it, until a few weeks later, and she remembered me when I came back...and she gave me a video of her....and told me to come visit her in California where she's starting her "new career".

CN: Hillary Duff as a stripper knows what a skittle is, has no idea what military work is.

GoFastGray
09-17-2008, 03:12 AM
"Just one of those turbo 4 bangers...."

We all had a good laugh about it, until a few weeks later, and she remembered me when I came back...and she gave me a video of her....and told me to come visit her in California where she's starting her "new career".

CN: Hillary Duff as a stripper knows what a skittle is, has no idea what military work is.

:jester:

So where in Cali... Don't leave a native out :nono:

ChrisR/T
09-24-2008, 05:37 PM
I'm not giving up my personal own Hilary Duff ;)

mtlcafan79
09-24-2008, 05:46 PM
I'll tell her that when I see her Friday night. My brother is getting married on Saturday.

ChrisR/T
09-24-2008, 05:50 PM
Oh snap, sweet?!

mtlcafan79
09-26-2008, 06:09 AM
So the chic I know hasn't worked there in months and your girl wasn't around. =\

GoFastGray
09-26-2008, 06:40 AM
So the chic I know hasn't worked there in months and your girl wasn't around. =\

Yea, she's at my local club now :rockwoot::nana:

ChrisR/T
09-29-2008, 11:48 AM
So the chic I know hasn't worked there in months and your girl wasn't around. =\


Hmm...guess I'll just have to meet someone new!:jester:

mtlcafan79
09-29-2008, 11:54 AM
Thursday night was good times. This weekend should be good. Your Pooper can race the Skittle.

Ryacuski
10-15-2008, 08:09 AM
I'm up for any place that isn't rediculously far from IL. I just couldn't make Michigan last time cause I was short on funds. Anywhere under 3 states away from me is do-able.

Where is Cecil btw???

NH_TAZ
10-15-2008, 09:29 AM
I'm up for any place that isn't rediculously far from IL. I just couldn't make Michigan last time cause I was short on funds. Anywhere under 3 states away from me is do-able.

Where is Cecil btw???

Maryland!

Trueblue R/T
10-15-2008, 03:22 PM
I'm up for any place that isn't rediculously far from IL. I just couldn't make Michigan last time cause I was short on funds. Anywhere under 3 states away from me is do-able.

Where is Cecil btw???

you might have to streach that a bit the next one is sceduled for cali.

Ryacuski
10-15-2008, 08:13 PM
you might have to streach that a bit the next one is sceduled for cali.

WOW. That's far as hell. That's like 2 days of driving for me to get there.

And as far as Maryland. That isn't bad. I've been to Maryland before. I vote Cecil then!:biggthumpup:

mtlcafan79
10-15-2008, 08:20 PM
There may be something special at Carlisle next year...

GoFastGray
10-16-2008, 01:33 AM
you might have to streach that a bit the next one is sceduled for Division 7.

Fixed it for ya :biggthumpup:

ChrisR/T
10-16-2008, 04:49 PM
There may be something special at Carlisle next year...

O RLY?

bad360rt
10-18-2008, 02:06 PM
O RLY?

We have officially dubbed next year's Carlisle meet as the "Get off your ass and finally get your shit together and drag your lazy ass to a meet" meet :D And yes, I'm #1 on that list of people who never makes it to a meet, or when I do, I don't even have my truck (how the fuck did I become Prez?) LOL

Unless of course, Sean is referring to something else.

grapejuice1998
10-18-2008, 02:11 PM
WOW. That's far as hell. That's like 2 days of driving for me to get there.

And as far as Maryland. That isn't bad. I've been to Maryland before. I vote Cecil then!:biggthumpup:

As far as the Nats go, it isn't up for debate. The meets continue to be set in stone, as for general location.

This one will be somewhere in Div 7.

CA,NV,UT,AZ,HI

OUTSIDE US
Ontario

1LoudRT
10-18-2008, 03:36 PM
I sure as hell don't see any of us shipping our rides to HI for a meet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- can we atleast get a solid date so I can request the time off- I have to submitt my vaction for next year now

jw02rcrt
10-19-2008, 10:28 AM
As far as the Nats go, it isn't up for debate. The meets continue to be set in stone, as for general location.

This one will be somewhere in Div 7.

CA,NV,UT,AZ,HI

OUTSIDE US
Ontario
Hey Alan, I know that's how it was done in the past, but consider the amount of people that show up to the meets these days. I suggested Carlisle for the simple fact that it is in conjunction with a well established major MOPAR event and it will cost the club very little money (and you know how rich we are). I think for our 10th annual meet we should have more than a handful of trucks attend. I suspect that's what will happen if we hold it in Div. 7. Lets face it, everyone's broke and with gas prices the way they are, not many folks are going to drive or fly, (with the exception of Mike Thomas) out to the west coast. Of course these are just my thoughts, no hard data to back them up.

bad360rt
10-19-2008, 01:56 PM
We're trying to keep it fair. The last three meets have been Central & East coast. Just like east coast guys won't/can't drive out to the west coast, the same goes for the west coast bubbas, and I'm sure they'd like to have a meet that's within a reasonable distance for them.

We were pretty sure that this year's meet was going to bring a good turnout and that didn't happen. Cost was reasonable, there was plenty of stuff to do and then there was the Woodward Cruise, which is worth the trip by itself. But that still didn't help the attendance numbers.

Heavy D
10-19-2008, 03:05 PM
Now that all the Divisions have had a meet. Why can't there be two meets a year. With the cost of fuel, and the size of the club not growing any more you need to keep the interest going.
How about a East and West meet in different months of the year and next year a North and South events.
As Dave suggested you need to hook up the events with other events to help cost. I think the days of track rentals are over. Without the rentals you can keep your prices down to make it more attactive for the member to show up.
This years event with the Dream cruise really added to the event. Going to the track on a test and tune night was fun also. It's nice to see some other cars running. Heck one of your members got second place in the brackets races. That was great to watch.
I think all future events are going to be like this. In the Durango club I a belong to we also have to have some event happening to get the attendance up.
I see nothing wrong with the club having more than one event. The days of driving 3000 miles to an event are almost over. Unless you have lots of time off and money.

grapejuice1998
10-19-2008, 03:52 PM
Hey Alan, I know that's how it was done in the past, but consider the amount of people that show up to the meets these days. I suggested Carlisle for the simple fact that it is in conjunction with a well established major MOPAR event and it will cost the club very little money (and you know how rich we are). I think for our 10th annual meet we should have more than a handful of trucks attend. I suspect that's what will happen if we hold it in Div. 7. Lets face it, everyone's broke and with gas prices the way they are, not many folks are going to drive or fly, (with the exception of Mike Thomas) out to the west coast. Of course these are just my thoughts, no hard data to back them up.

I whole heartedly agree. These fringe meets are going to kill the club, but you can't tell the execs anything. They're too interested in being "fair" instead of doing whatever it takes to get the maximum amount of people to attend. Harsh, but true.
"I" believe there should be one central location for the meet, year after year. Even try and keep it the same weekend every year. Each year it would become easier and easier to produce the meet, plus the places we go to race/eat/drink would be well established. No "testing the waters" so to speak. Plus, the people that have to turn in for vacation time every year, will already know the whens and wheres.
But, it ain't up to me.

grapejuice1998
10-19-2008, 04:09 PM
We're trying to keep it fair. The last three meets have been Central & East coast. Just like east coast guys won't/can't drive out to the west coast, the same goes for the west coast bubbas, and I'm sure they'd like to have a meet that's within a reasonable distance for them.

We were pretty sure that this year's meet was going to bring a good turnout and that didn't happen. Cost was reasonable, there was plenty of stuff to do and then there was the Woodward Cruise, which is worth the trip by itself. But that still didn't help the attendance numbers.

Well, there was only drag racing and a SnS, no auto x. The drag racing was a TnT, not a rental. Regardless of Woodward, I wasn't going to spend the gas money, hotel money and time off during the week, to only do those 2 things. The Chrysler museum, Viper plant and Hell, weren't really things I cared much about.
I also really need a weekend meet, so I can take off Thursday and get back on Monday. I work for myself, so I can't just take a whole week off. There's nobody to work for me.
To me, the best meets were Topeka and Atlanta. I didn't go to Bremerton, St Louis and Detroit, because they were either too far away, or the events weren't worth attending for.
I need:
A weekend meet
A track rental
An auto x
Not so much on the SnS, but I see where there needs to be one
The speedway runs in Atlanta were really cool too.

And most importantly, a central location. Not upper central (Detroit), not lower central (Houston). Central.

grapejuice1998
10-19-2008, 04:15 PM
Now that all the Divisions have had a meet. Why can't there be two meets a year. With the cost of fuel, and the size of the club not growing any more you need to keep the interest going.
How about a East and West meet in different months of the year and next year a North and South events.
As Dave suggested you need to hook up the events with other events to help cost. I think the days of track rentals are over. Without the rentals you can keep your prices down to make it more attactive for the member to show up.
This years event with the Dream cruise really added to the event. Going to the track on a test and tune night was fun also. It's nice to see some other cars running. Heck one of your members got second place in the brackets races. That was great to watch.
I think all future events are going to be like this. In the Durango club I a belong to we also have to have some event happening to get the attendance up.
I see nothing wrong with the club having more than one event. The days of driving 3000 miles to an event are almost over. Unless you have lots of time off and money.

The problem with 2 meets is that it takes all year to produce even 1 meet. The execs don't work hard year-around, just when the chips are down and even then, only a few will really do anything. I don't say that to hurt any feelings, it's just the simple truth. Pretty much always has been, except for the original execs that built the club. Mike Williams, Jim Burr, Lori Lange, Rick Adams, etc. All go-getters and motivated, but it was their thing, not something handed off to people that don't really care.
It's a really difficult situation. I know, I've been in the middle of it a few times myself.

bad360rt
10-19-2008, 05:34 PM
You make some very good points Alan, and I agree on a lot of them (and don't worry, I don't take offense to any suggestions or criticisms).

St. Louis was fairly central and we had about 30 trucks show up. With gas the way it's been (altho it's coming down now) and the economy the way it is now, it's really hard to see a big meet coming together. Hell, NOPI cancelled their shows this year due to low attendance and they had major corporate sponsors. There's a reason we haven't been able to do the autox the last couple years, money. To put on a full blown meet these days with a track rental and autox, we're looking at $8-10k. How are we gonna pay for that with 30 people showing up? Charge $300 for registration?

I want to see bigger meets just as much as anyone, but making it a reality seems to be a pretty tall order these days.

grapejuice1998
10-19-2008, 06:27 PM
You make some very good points Alan, and I agree on a lot of them (and don't worry, I don't take offense to any suggestions or criticisms).

St. Louis was fairly central and we had about 30 trucks show up. With gas the way it's been (altho it's coming down now) and the economy the way it is now, it's really hard to see a big meet coming together. Hell, NOPI cancelled their shows this year due to low attendance and they had major corporate sponsors. There's a reason we haven't been able to do the autox the last couple years, money. To put on a full blown meet these days with a track rental and autox, we're looking at $8-10k. How are we gonna pay for that with 30 people showing up? Charge $300 for registration?

I want to see bigger meets just as much as anyone, but making it a reality seems to be a pretty tall order these days.

There again, the St Louis meet seemed thin on activities to me, so I didn't see it being worth it. Now Atlanta, I would have walked there to get to all the fun shit we did.
As for making money, get more membership in the club, but you'll have to make it worth joining. Also, explore some merchandise possibilities. Sell shirts, pins, patches, etc. Push Cafepress on all the websites too. The more they sell, the more money we'll make off of it.
In the early days of the club, we used to have some money set aside for local chapters to have membership drives with. When we last had one here in Div 4, it was quite successful. We spent all the money on a cook out that we held at my shop. Burgers, dogs, sodas, chips, plates, cups, ice, etc. We got some new members to join up, plus we did renewals. We also sold patches and I think stickers too. We ended up making more than the club gave us and sent it all back. In the process, the club made money and we increased active membership. It doesn't have to be much. Maybe $40-50 bucks covers it nicely.

Trueblue R/T
10-20-2008, 02:38 AM
There again, the St Louis meet seemed thin on activities to me, so I didn't see it being worth it. Now Atlanta, I would have walked there to get to all the fun shit we did.
As for making money, get more membership in the club, but you'll have to make it worth joining. Also, explore some merchandise possibilities. Sell shirts, pins, patches, etc. Push Cafepress on all the websites too. The more they sell, the more money we'll make off of it.
In the early days of the club, we used to have some money set aside for local chapters to have membership drives with. When we last had one here in Div 4, it was quite successful. We spent all the money on a cook out that we held at my shop. Burgers, dogs, sodas, chips, plates, cups, ice, etc. We got some new members to join up, plus we did renewals. We also sold patches and I think stickers too. We ended up making more than the club gave us and sent it all back. In the process, the club made money and we increased active membership. It doesn't have to be much. Maybe $40-50 bucks covers it nicely.

YEP pretty good turnout for a little one afternoon throw-down..lol

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh19/Truebluert/MVC-004S-1.jpg

ChrisR/T
10-20-2008, 12:31 PM
We have officially dubbed next year's Carlisle meet as the "Get off your ass and finally get your shit together and drag your lazy ass to a meet" meet :D And yes, I'm #1 on that list of people who never makes it to a meet, or when I do, I don't even have my truck (how the fuck did I become Prez?) LOL

Unless of course, Sean is referring to something else.

I see.

I'm joining this club ASAP. I'm waiting on my heads to get back from the machine shop, then I'm going to try and get her together for the spring Cecil meet, most definitely the Carlisle meet.

I hope Carlisle has their dyno there, I'm gonna try and crack 300whp with two cars ;)

Addionally, I nominate Carlisle as the national meet. It's a huge place to draw lots of attention back to the club, especially if we have a large showing, even more so if we all register early and together as the DRTC.

People come from all over to come to Carlisle. Canada, midwest, east coast, south, etc. I understand it's tough for the West Coast people to come East and vice versa, but we gotta try something.

mtlcafan79
10-20-2008, 12:37 PM
We should discuss Carlisle '09 over beers coming up here at Cecil. I think we should just go ahead and plan everything out and see who shows. As mentioned I doubt very few East coasters will be driving out west. This will be a great local alternative.

ChrisR/T
10-20-2008, 12:39 PM
Discussing things over beers...always sounds good.

More than likely, i'll just pass out in the pisser again.

mtlcafan79
10-20-2008, 01:03 PM
Speaking of, 120's are back in stock for my bday bash.

You gonna be around APG on Thursday? I'm headed up there for some "weapons familiarization" training. hehe

Was out shooting yesterday, http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=10572 Broke a guy's AR when a round fired out of battery. Shot the mag out, took out the bolt, extractor, and suppressor.

ChrisR/T
10-20-2008, 01:20 PM
I'll be here Thursday. What time are you coming up?

My extension is 7193. Cell doesn't work back here.

Birthday bash, eh?

Does this include a trip to the gold club? I need to see Ivy again. haha

If McDoogals, I hope LeAnn, I mean, Lisa, isn't working, LOL!

grapejuice1998
10-20-2008, 02:43 PM
YEP pretty good turnout for a little one afternoon throw-down..lol

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh19/Truebluert/MVC-004S-1.jpg

Thanks for posting that Barry!! :biggthumpup:

scatpackdal
10-20-2008, 03:12 PM
If the club or a division of the club decides to put something on at Carlisle then I will my mark my calendar and do my damndest to be there. I've been saying for years I was going to make that show and this will finally give me the extra incentive to get there. Even if I myself don't get there most likely I can still get the truck there via family or a friend.

20SilverDaks01
10-22-2008, 01:25 PM
A Regional or National Meet next year in Carlisle would solve a few issues and cut some club expenses as well......

That show gets quite a few R/T's every year and offers most of what the club looks for locally except a track for the Autocross session that everyone seems to like so much...

I think what it may eventually come down to is each division holds it's own
meet and at it's choice of location because with the Economy going south and the cost of Fuel which will no doubt be back up by next summer, it will be very hard for members to travel long distance to attend a show.

With Carlisle being about 3 hours away from me, it will be possible for me to attend with my 2001 R/T CC and my 2002 R/T Clone I'm working on now...

ChrisR/T
10-22-2008, 01:44 PM
Carlisle has a track that's like a 30 minute drive away I think?

South Mountain dragway comes to mind, but I think it's only 1/8th mile.

mtlcafan79
10-22-2008, 01:53 PM
South Mountain is crap. It's a 1/8 mile strip and it's pretty crowded. Definitely not the TnT style sessions we are used to.

Williams Grove is much more fun. http://www.williamsgrove.com :D

ChrisR/T
10-22-2008, 03:59 PM
I will agree, Williams Grove is mucho fun.

Are we doing that again in 09? This time I'll bring my camera gear with me, and hearing protection. I'll get some fantastic shots.

mtlcafan79
10-22-2008, 04:04 PM
Sprint cars is a must see for Friday nights at Carlisle. Saturdays will be drunken go karts. Dinner at the Market Cross Pub wasn't bad either. We may plan an early arrival activities day on Thursday. Something about brewery tours, I dunno.

ChrisR/T
10-22-2008, 04:46 PM
Yeah, the Sprint cars were awesome!

bad360rt
10-22-2008, 10:41 PM
Sprint cars is a must see for Friday nights at Carlisle. Saturdays will be drunken go karts. Dinner at the Market Cross Pub wasn't bad either. We may plan an early arrival activities day on Thursday. Something about brewery tours, I dunno.

Sounds like a good plan to me :D I'll definitely be there for the sprint cars next year!

jw02rcrt
10-23-2008, 12:04 AM
Sprint cars is a must see for Friday nights at Carlisle. Saturdays will be drunken go karts. Dinner at the Market Cross Pub wasn't bad either. We may plan an early arrival activities day on Thursday. Something about brewery tours, I dunno.
Is this official????? Are we going to host a Div. Meet or a Nat. meet?

mtlcafan79
10-23-2008, 02:16 AM
I say we host a meet regardless. Beers in two weeks. Discuss.

bad360rt
10-23-2008, 02:44 AM
Is this official????? Are we going to host a Div. Meet or a Nat. meet?

Definitely Divisional at least. :D

I say we host a meet regardless. Beers in two weeks. Discuss.

Yup, well, three weeks for me since I'll be missing the Cecil meet, but making the 15-16th meet. :biggthumpup:

grapejuice1998
10-23-2008, 03:26 AM
Is this official????? Are we going to host a Div. Meet or a Nat. meet?

How about an anybody that wants to attend meet? :biggthumpup:

jw02rcrt
10-23-2008, 11:36 PM
That's what we do every year! :D

slvr03dakrt
11-20-2008, 02:21 AM
With the new year coming up have we nailed down an aprox. place to have the meet or is it still in the air. I'm going to try and plan way ahead this year to decide if I'm going to make it or not. If its within 800miles one way I'll be there. 1000miles I might be there.

Pete102580
11-20-2008, 02:22 AM
ill drive anywhere...

i may not bring the r/t, but i'll be there.
pete

grapejuice1998
12-12-2008, 03:16 PM
Any news on the '09 Nats?

RTchas
12-17-2008, 11:40 PM
Any news on the '09 Nats?

Ahh yeah what he said.....

bad360rt
12-17-2008, 11:57 PM
Still working on it, but it's west coast, looking like Reno :D

Pete102580
12-18-2008, 12:57 AM
then i take back what i said about driving anywhere, lol

bad360rt
12-18-2008, 01:18 AM
then i take back what i said about driving anywhere, lol

Yeah, it would be a 37 hour drive for me, I don't think that's gonna happen. Hopefully I can fly in and beat on a rental. :D

grapejuice1998
12-18-2008, 02:46 AM
Not exactly an inviting prospect for me either.

Total Estimated Time: 25 hours 20 minutes
Total Estimated Distance: 1665.79 miles

99408kotar/t
12-19-2008, 07:43 PM
thats a little far for me. my parents have a house in mesa, az so maybe i'll fly out there if its at firebird or speedworld. i used to race motocross at speedworld mx park. firebirds off of 10 and speedworld is off of 60 right?

SinCity R/T
12-19-2008, 08:48 PM
I am still hoping to contact Firebird Raceway to see whether we could pull off a full event combined with the Truckin' Nats... They have a road course at the facility, plus two days of drag racing has only cost us $25. Right now I'm waiting for them to post the remainder of their 2009 schedule so I can bug them about costs/availability.

grapejuice1998
12-19-2008, 11:19 PM
I am still hoping to contact Firebird Raceway to see whether we could pull off a full event combined with the Truckin' Nats... They have a road course at the facility, plus two days of drag racing has only cost us $25. Right now I'm waiting for them to post the remainder of their 2009 schedule so I can bug them about costs/availability.

That's more like it!

Total Estimated Time: 15 hours 17 minutes
Total Estimated Distance: 1049.35 miles

That and I've been to the Truckin Nats before. I had a BLAST!!!
As much as I normally don't like a combo meet, this idea would be perfect IMO.

Trueblue R/T
12-20-2008, 02:04 AM
That's more like it!

Total Estimated Time: 15 hours 17 minutes
Total Estimated Distance: 1049.35 miles

That and I've been to the Truckin Nats before. I had a BLAST!!!
As much as I normally don't like a combo meet, this idea would be perfect IMO.

ditto i like phoenix

Duner
12-20-2008, 02:50 AM
As long as it's not in July or August, Phoenix isn't too bad.

GoFastGray
12-20-2008, 03:12 AM
As long as it's not in July or August, Phoenix isn't too bad.

I'm guessing it'll be late April AGAIN. Just in time for the 100+ :jester:
Last year was the lowest turn-out. During the driver meet they asked us what they could do to improve attentance. I asked about moving it back to October..wasn't an option.
You missed last year, right?

Duner
12-20-2008, 03:15 AM
I'm guessing it'll be late April AGAIN. Just in time for the 100+ :jester:
Last year was the lowest turn-out. During the driver meet they asked us what they could do to improve attentance. I asked about moving it back to October..wasn't an option.
You missed last year, right?

Yes, last year I boycotted the event. I love hanging with you guys, but I can't get down the track without "drama" when it's that hot and greasy. Of course, maybe now with some CalTracs, it might be different?

GoFastGray
12-20-2008, 03:27 AM
Yes, last year I boycotted the event. I love hanging with you guys, but I can't get down the track without "drama" when it's that hot and greasy. Of course, maybe now with some CalTracs, it might be different?

I was disapointed last year. Partially due to my trans issues, but the turnout in general was a disapointment. The AZ Lightning club also boycotted the event. I think there was just one Silver SVT there and he was telling me about the AZ SVT club skipping the event.

Next year I'm planning on going to the MATS event instead. I'd rather see a bunch of mopars than 20 drag trucks and 200 dirt bikes.
They planned the event too close to the Lake Havasu truck show. I don't think there were even 35 show trucks there. The old lot for show trucks was now dirt bike/off road pits.

The IHBA drag boats were cool...but left our stands empty.

fryertuck
01-27-2009, 06:49 PM
Well, there was only drag racing and a SnS, no auto x. The drag racing was a TnT, not a rental. Regardless of Woodward, I wasn't going to spend the gas money, hotel money and time off during the week, to only do those 2 things. The Chrysler museum, Viper plant and Hell, weren't really things I cared much about.
I also really need a weekend meet, so I can take off Thursday and get back on Monday. I work for myself, so I can't just take a whole week off. There's nobody to work for me.
To me, the best meets were Topeka and Atlanta. I didn't go to Bremerton, St Louis and Detroit, because they were either too far away, or the events weren't worth attending for.
I need:
A weekend meet
A track rental
An auto x
Not so much on the SnS, but I see where there needs to be one
The speedway runs in Atlanta were really cool too.

And most importantly, a central location. Not upper central (Detroit), not lower central (Houston). Central.

Could not agree with you more, Alan. I'm central FL, and I know i'm going to have to drive no matter what. I haven't really been excited about a meet since Topeka!

00RedRT
02-10-2009, 12:05 AM
Could not agree with you more, Alan. I'm central FL, and I know i'm going to have to drive no matter what. I haven't really been excited about a meet since Topeka!

Closest meet for you would have been Atlanta in '06. I wish you could have made it out to that one.

fryertuck
02-10-2009, 12:28 AM
Closest meet for you would have been Atlanta in '06. I wish you could have made it out to that one.

Me too, there was just too many issues.... I am going to the next one that is close, but can't do the left coast....

:)

Going to Gatlinburg in June for a Charger meet!

grapejuice1998
02-17-2009, 02:29 PM
In 4 short months, it will be mid June. Any word on the National meet?

mtlcafan79
02-17-2009, 02:42 PM
Not.

Gonna.

Happen?

GoFastGray
02-17-2009, 02:50 PM
In 4 short months, it will be mid June. Any word on the National meet?

Looking at july-august
waiting for next meet....

ScatDak
02-25-2009, 03:44 AM
Well hurry up phuckers :finger: I'm waiting to put in some leave notice.

GoFastGray
02-25-2009, 04:20 AM
Well hurry up phuckers :finger: I'm waiting to put in some leave notice.

Got an email from the track today. Need to call him tomorrow mourning to confirm date :biggthumpup:

grapejuice1998
02-25-2009, 02:48 PM
BTW, the 2008 National Meet info is still up on the DRTC front page.

DakotaLivLrg
02-25-2009, 07:50 PM
Got an email from the track today. Need to call him tomorrow mourning to confirm date :biggthumpup:

do did you call yet? I need to know so I can request the time off :rockwoot:

GoFastGray
02-25-2009, 09:48 PM
do did you call yet? I need to know so I can request the time off :rockwoot:

Emailed my number back, got his cell # from the office, called yesterday, left voicemail...called back this mourning, called 20min. ago. Going to make one more call before my lunch is up.
I'm working on it :biggthumpup:

Kota408RT
03-02-2009, 11:47 PM
Come to Louisiana, yall can have it out at no problem raceway. Road course and Drag strip. We just had pinks out there last weekend. Its in expensive to rent and there's a big Mopar following out here.

grapejuice1998
03-05-2009, 09:57 PM
Any word yet?

GoFastGray
03-05-2009, 11:07 PM
Any word yet?

Finally got a hold of jeremy Friday. He said he was going to bring it up during the meet early this week. They don't hold too many drag events, more of a roadcourse track. He said they should be able to schedule a TNT Oct. 2nd (Friday night). That's when they normally have their TNT's.
I'll try to contact him tomorrow to make sure all went well than start booking the other two events in pen!:biggthumpup:

GoFastGray
03-09-2009, 06:13 AM
Another update from last friday.
President of some sort missed the meeting. He was either going to talk to him last friday when he was going to the track, or monday/today.
Was told to call tomorrow mourning if I don't get a call back this afternoon.

They also had to look at other local tracks and try not to conflict with their schedules. Checked out Fallon NV, and they are not booked for the same weekend.
And I doubt Stead is open the day before the auto-x.

Looks clear. Almost time for ink :rockwoot:

548ciDakota
03-18-2009, 10:32 AM
If I am reading the first post correctly, the East coast needs to have a proposal(s) in 3 months prior to this years event since the East coast has it in 2010? If so, Darren and myself need to get busy.

krusty_R/T
03-18-2009, 11:54 AM
If I am reading the first post correctly, the East coast needs to have a proposal(s) in 3 months prior to this years event since the East coast has it in 2010? If so, Darren and myself need to get busy.
If we get a mirror of the ATL meet, I WILL be there:biggthumpup:

GoFastGray
03-18-2009, 12:57 PM
If we get a mirror of the ATL meet, I WILL be there:biggthumpup:

And you could count me in too!!

GoFastGray
03-18-2009, 01:02 PM
If I am reading the first post correctly, the East coast needs to have a proposal(s) in 3 months prior to this years event since the East coast has it in 2010? If so, Darren and myself need to get busy.

3 months would give you guys till late June/ early July.

GoFastGray
03-18-2009, 01:07 PM
Another update;
Finally got a hold of Jeremy again. President had surgery and is back, and Jeremy just got back from vacation. So I SHOULD get a confirmation by Friday the latest, if not, I need to raise my tone a bit about getting something done cause the one track is holding the whole train of events/planning back.

99strokedr/t
03-18-2009, 03:19 PM
If we get a mirror of the ATL meet, I WILL be there:biggthumpup:

Then you better quit spending all your damn money on those POS DSMs...hehe

548ciDakota
03-18-2009, 03:28 PM
If we get a mirror of the ATL meet, I WILL be there:biggthumpup:

I guess its time to start making some phone calls and then see what it would cost to mirror the 2006 Nats. This time the hotels will be up the road since most of the days are spent around that area anyway. It seems like folks are interested. By the post I have seen and the PM's that I have received. Just need to find out the sticker shock of the track and what folks are willing to pay to play. Everyone has a thresh hold.

scatpackdal
03-18-2009, 06:45 PM
If we get a mirror of the ATL meet, I WILL be there:biggthumpup:

Werd. I'll gladly pay to play if it will have the same type of experiences as last time.

bad360rt
03-18-2009, 06:57 PM
If I am reading the first post correctly, the East coast needs to have a proposal(s) in 3 months prior to this years event since the East coast has it in 2010? If so, Darren and myself need to get busy.

That was my original intention, so that we could get the ball rolling early on the next meet, and try to prevent everything being last minute. So yeah, the earlier you guys can put a proposal together, the better! :biggthumpup:

Falksey_22
03-18-2009, 08:45 PM
If we get a mirror of the ATL meet, I WILL be there:biggthumpup:
I'm In

548ciDakota
03-18-2009, 09:59 PM
They have also added a 1/8 mile track inside the facility. It is a street style setup. No lights, just whoever crosses the line first. We are talking old school:hail::burnout:
I shot the guy an email regarding track pricing, so who knows. Maybe we will get to do it all again.

GoFastGray
03-19-2009, 04:22 AM
That was my original intention, so that we could get the ball rolling early on the next meet, and try to prevent everything being last minute. So yeah, the earlier you guys can put a proposal together, the better! :biggthumpup:

Only problem with an early proposal like i did last year... Price doubled! Than Insurance was high.

The current track is 34 min away from the Main area we are going to be located. There is another track 1hr out of the way. If this track keeps delaying everything, should I contact track #2 about a possible T-N-T??

548ciDakota
03-19-2009, 11:02 PM
I got some great numbers today. Here is the breakdown.

The track for the day with all facilities (Road course, Oval and 1/8 drag strip)

$7500 plus insurance.

I figure $10,500 would come close to covering it.
With those numbers, here is a breakdown.

40 trucks = $262.50
50 trucks = $210
60 trucks = $175
70 trucks = $150
80 trucks = $131.25
90 trucks = $116.66
100 trucks=$105

Of course we would try to get Summit Racing involved again. The nice part about AMS is you can have the Road course and oval going at the same time(no drag), or the drag strip and road course at the same time(no oval) and switch it up during the day so there would be plenty of activities to go around so no one gets bored. The 1/8 drag strip is old school. White line and a guy with a flag. Flag drops you run like hell. First one to cross the other white line wins. No timers or lights. Just straight up street racing like your daddy's used to do:woot:

Anyone interested?:drive: This could be an alternative to the NATS for us East coast guys, or do it for the 2010 NATS or both. Hell, all we need are some trucks. We could even do it every year just like out local Mopar club does. Shoot me a PM so that I can keep with numbers interested to see if it is worth bothering with.

scatpackdal
03-19-2009, 11:15 PM
Anyone interested?:drive:

This could be fun. Incoming PM.

razman131
04-24-2009, 06:00 PM
Another update;
Finally got a hold of Jeremy again. President had surgery and is back, and Jeremy just got back from vacation. So I SHOULD get a confirmation by Friday the latest, if not, I need to raise my tone a bit about getting something done cause the one track is holding the whole train of events/planning back.

unless ive been under a rock, any news as to this years meet? its almost May and time is getting short.

maybe see ya this weekend.

GoFastGray
04-24-2009, 09:34 PM
unless ive been under a rock, any news as to this years meet? its almost May and time is getting short.

maybe see ya this weekend.

Wish I could make it, but I work all weekend(had last two off).
Everything is in pencil, trying to get the drag strip booked in pen so everything else can be set in stone as well.
I've been hassling the guy from the track to get it set on their schedule, they're really holding us back from everything else I want done by now.
Looks to be the first weekend of October, date should be set soon!
-Kevin

razman131
04-25-2009, 08:12 PM
Looks to be the first weekend of October, date should be set soon!-Kevin

sweet... Oct is a better time around these parts weather wise. i might be the only Dakota there if i get to go. dayum Spintech exhaust been kickin my butt these last few months on leaks. found a possible fix for the crappy alum spacers.. bwahahaha.... (i have a all access pass to a master machinist and water jet machine)

01Motorsport
05-23-2009, 01:32 AM
I got some great numbers today. Here is the breakdown.

The track for the day with all facilities (Road course, Oval and 1/8 drag strip)

$7500 plus insurance.

I figure $10,500 would come close to covering it.
With those numbers, here is a breakdown.

40 trucks = $262.50
50 trucks = $210
60 trucks = $175
70 trucks = $150
80 trucks = $131.25
90 trucks = $116.66
100 trucks=$105

Of course we would try to get Summit Racing involved again. The nice part about AMS is you can have the Road course and oval going at the same time(no drag), or the drag strip and road course at the same time(no oval) and switch it up during the day so there would be plenty of activities to go around so no one gets bored. The 1/8 drag strip is old school. White line and a guy with a flag. Flag drops you run like hell. First one to cross the other white line wins. No timers or lights. Just straight up street racing like your daddy's used to do:woot:

Anyone interested?:drive: This could be an alternative to the NATS for us East coast guys, or do it for the 2010 NATS or both. Hell, all we need are some trucks. We could even do it every year just like out local Mopar club does. Shoot me a PM so that I can keep with numbers interested to see if it is worth bothering with.News? :takesome:

548ciDakota
05-23-2009, 04:59 AM
Wont be in '09. Not enough interest for '09. We will go for it next year though for sure.

1LoudRT
05-23-2009, 06:00 AM
I got some great numbers today. Here is the breakdown.

The track for the day with all facilities (Road course, Oval and 1/8 drag strip)

$7500 plus insurance.

I figure $10,500 would come close to covering it.
With those numbers, here is a breakdown.

40 trucks = $262.50
50 trucks = $210
60 trucks = $175
70 trucks = $150
80 trucks = $131.25
90 trucks = $116.66
100 trucks=$105

Of course we would try to get Summit Racing involved again. The nice part about AMS is you can have the Road course and oval going at the same time(no drag), or the drag strip and road course at the same time(no oval) and switch it up during the day so there would be plenty of activities to go around so no one gets bored. The 1/8 drag strip is old school. White line and a guy with a flag. Flag drops you run like hell. First one to cross the other white line wins. No timers or lights. Just straight up street racing like your daddy's used to do:woot:

Anyone interested?:drive: This could be an alternative to the NATS for us East coast guys, or do it for the 2010 NATS or both. Hell, all we need are some trucks. We could even do it every year just like out local Mopar club does. Shoot me a PM so that I can keep with numbers interested to see if it is worth bothering with.


I'd be willing to come out for that- would be a great time!:woot:

razman131
05-29-2009, 02:12 PM
Looks to be the first weekend of October, date should be set soon!
-Kevin

hey man... any news.... gotta start making plans even tho its on our/my backyard so to speak.

GoFastGray
05-29-2009, 02:53 PM
hey man... any news.... gotta start making plans even tho its on our/my backyard so to speak.

One track has been a PITA since february. Contacted another local track and things are moving a lot quicker. Should get the final dates up asap :biggthumpup:

razman131
07-08-2009, 07:28 PM
One track has been a PITA since february. Contacted another local track and things are moving a lot quicker. Should get the final dates up asap :biggthumpup:

Ok... time to stir the simmering pot again..... its now July.... any news or are we bust this year??

Rigeldust
07-08-2009, 08:10 PM
Wont be in '09. Not enough interest for '09. We will go for it next year though for sure.

As it seems we should start talking about next year just to keep on it.

GoFastGray
07-08-2009, 09:20 PM
Ok... time to stir the simmering pot again..... its now July.... any news or are we bust this year??

We had the date set at the second track which is 1-1/2 hours away from the location.
The first track now leases the track out...why they havn't been able to set a date.
So now i'm waiting for the company who is leasing the track, to contact the track, to CONFIRM the date for us.
I have the artwork almost done, just waiting on date to be set to add to it.
I try to call as often as I can (once a week), but don't want to harass them with all my calls...but maybe that's what needs to be done at this point!

grapejuice1998
07-12-2009, 03:56 PM
We had the date set at the second track which is 1-1/2 hours away from the location.
The first track now leases the track out...why they havn't been able to set a date.
So now i'm waiting for the company who is leasing the track, to contact the track, to CONFIRM the date for us.
I have the artwork almost done, just waiting on date to be set to add to it.
I try to call as often as I can (once a week), but don't want to harass them with all my calls...but maybe that's what needs to be done at this point!

Geeze, is anyone else besides you working on this?

And THANKS, by the way!

GoFastGray
07-12-2009, 09:09 PM
Geeze, is anyone else besides you working on this?

And THANKS, by the way!

Just myself. I'll post up a list of "to do's" when the date is set so others can help out. Post up numbers to call and such and mark the list off as I go.

I'm hoping to have the date set by this Tuesday!! I might have to go with option (track) B if they can't get the date set.
The artwork is done, and I found a nice hotel while up in Reno last weekend.