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Filthy Filbert
03-03-2017, 12:54 AM
By request directly from Ryan, I have closed his supporting vendor sub forum. He conveyed that it was not anything personal towards anyone, and that he has multiple reasons for this decision, namely that SCT is not supporting our platform to the level that allows Ryan to provide the customer service to his standards. Ryan is still a member here on this forum, and is still involved in SCT. I doubt he will be turning his back on any of his current customers. He just isn't looking to bring on any new ones, thus, no need for a sub forum.

BIGROB
03-03-2017, 01:06 AM
Well that sucks but how about a big thank you to Ryan for the past support. :drtc_logo001:

Wiggsy72
03-03-2017, 01:37 AM
Dang that's too bad, feels like we just lost someone very special. I'm sure that couldn't be further from the truth though.

ScojoDak
03-03-2017, 03:04 AM
Well that sucks but how about a big thank you to Ryan for the past support. :drtc_logo001:

:biggthumpup: :biggthumpup: :biggthumpup:

Adobedude
03-03-2017, 03:05 AM
Gee...I've never seen this happen before.

SnipeRT
03-03-2017, 04:18 AM
...he has multiple reasons for this decision, namely that SCT is not supporting our platform to the level that allows Ryan to provide the customer service to his standards.

Sounds like the X3 is at the end of it's production run, and there's no hope for future compatibility with the new stock. We'll just have to see what the reality is though.

I wonder what will become of his IB RC?

Filthy Filbert
03-03-2017, 11:25 AM
I don't understand precisely what the problem is, but he said it only happens during email tuning and never happens when he loads the file directly to the device from his interface.

He bought it to drive it. No super secret plans. He was feeding the troll with his answers to chris' questions

arro222
03-03-2017, 11:43 PM
By request directly from Ryan, I have closed his supporting vendor sub forum. He conveyed that it was not anything personal towards anyone, and that he has multiple reasons for this decision, namely that SCT is not supporting our platform to the level that allows Ryan to provide the customer service to his standards. Ryan is still a member here on this forum, and is still involved in SCT. I doubt he will be turning his back on any of his current customers. He just isn't looking to bring on any new ones, thus, no need for a sub forum.

So if I just sent him money this past Tuesday for an SCT, I'm I getting my money back or a tuner?

Wiggsy72
03-03-2017, 11:49 PM
So if I just sent him money this past Tuesday for an SCT, I'm I getting my money back or a tuner?

He'll take care of you still, it's all good. Just as Tom stated is all, that's it.

Uhm only thing is no email tunes after February 1st if I'm not mistaken for new customers, only those grandfathered in.

arro222
03-04-2017, 12:05 AM
He'll take care of you still, it's all good. Just as Tom stated is all, that's it.

Uhm only thing is no email tunes after February 1st if I'm not mistaken.

Since I'm a complete dickhead about any of this tuner stuff, I thought the only way somebody who lives 2000 miles away or more from Ryan would only be able to get a tune through email. On a truck such as yours and considering where you live, how 'r ya gonna tune it?

Wiggsy72
03-04-2017, 12:08 AM
Since I'm a complete dickhead about any of this tuner stuff, I thought the only way somebody who lives 2000 miles away or more from Ryan would only be able to get a tune through email. On a truck such as yours and considering where you live, how 'r ya gonna tune it?

He revised his posting http://www.dakotart.com/forum/showthread.php?37731-Revising-of-email-tuning-policy-for-future-orders

I already purchased my custom tune in January before all this went down. Fingers crossed it's going to be just fine, I'm not worried one bit as Ryan has an outstanding reputation in the community.

Filthy Filbert
03-04-2017, 12:24 AM
Correct. Ryan didn't say 'fuck it, fuck you, I'm fucking walking away'. He simply is not interested in bringing on any new customers, this no need for a forum as advertisement.


If you have a specific question, contact Ryan

SnipeRT
03-04-2017, 12:42 AM
I ordered mine in January too. Feeling cold feet, but I'm confident things will work out fine. I couldn't imaging the number of different forums and FB groups he tries to maintain a presence on. He's just one man (at this point), and he needs to focus. Unfortunately, that focus isn't on our era of vehicles. THAT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM HIS VAST KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO TUNE OUR MOTORS. I guess this is really just a matter of whether "we" still get the same level of customer service as his later-generation customers.

wdh681
03-04-2017, 03:15 AM
I got my order in at the end of January also. I talked to him earlier this week via text. He said he's been slammed with work. He said he got 6 months worth of orders in within a week. The guy is just spread too thin. Stress is a real killer and some things have to give. I believe he will take care of us, but he's not looking for any new customers. I am confident that it will be worth the wait.

krs1r/t
03-04-2017, 01:15 PM
Because tuning our motors takes a masters degree in rocket science.:confused::roflmao:
I'm selling my sct if anyone needs one.

slammedR/T
03-04-2017, 01:49 PM
Because tuning our motors takes a masters degree in rocket science.:confused::roflmao:
I'm selling my sct if anyone needs one.

It must be, I have yet to see "the other tuners" get the tunes right..........

Filthy Filbert
03-04-2017, 02:03 PM
It must be, I have yet to see "the other tuners" get the tunes right..........

Why do you think he's selling his SCT?

Bang4theBuck
03-04-2017, 03:01 PM
There are still some other options...... Mine is done by Chris at pie and gets tons of abuse, keeps getting faster, and has for a few years now. I also hear Marty Fletcher is pretty good. Hopefully someone can ad anyone thats good that Im missing?

slammedR/T
03-04-2017, 03:04 PM
There are still some other options...... Mine is done by Chris at pie and gets tons of abuse, keeps getting faster, and has for a few years now. I also hear Marty Fletcher is pretty good. Hopefully someone can ad anyone thats good that Im missing?

HAHAHAHA!!!!!! you heard WAY!!! wrong

FlyinRyan
03-04-2017, 03:50 PM
I don't understand precisely what the problem is, but he said it only happens during email tuning and never happens when he loads the file directly to the device from his interface.

He bought it to drive it. No super secret plans. He was feeding the troll with his answers to chris' questions

The Real Pro wheels, nitrous, and 3600 stall suggest otherwise......

arro222
03-04-2017, 03:54 PM
He revised his posting http://www.dakotart.com/forum/showthread.php?37731-Revising-of-email-tuning-policy-for-future-orders

I already purchased my custom tune in January before all this went down. Fingers crossed it's going to be just fine, I'm not worried one bit as Ryan has an outstanding reputation in the community.

What's Jtec as opposed to SCT? And if I'm understanding this correctly; a canned tune is for minor bolt ons but a "custom tune" is for the addition of cams, heads, etc.?

FlyinRyan
03-04-2017, 03:56 PM
So here's the deal guys. *Editing in progress*

I am at the point where it no longer is effective for me to tune these trucks, in volume, over email. That's not to say it isn't profitable- i have had a great deal of success with it- but with the phone and the FB and so on going off constantly because people do not grasp what is entailed in email tuning has been a major factor in not only my personal life, but my health as well.


One of the downsides to having a small business is that people tend to overlook the fact that I am not open 24/7. The more time I spend on the phone, on FB, on emails, etc, the less time I get to spend on the tuning. The volume of work I get is already enough to where I feel my time is limited- so managing that window I have is crucial.
Beyond that- and this might be because of my shift towards being more Facebook-centric in my focus- the younger generation of owners that is now modifying these trucks seem to have a growing sense of entitlement. There is a certain expectation of the sun and the moon, and when you have to abbreviate the conversation to move on to other tasks, one is met with anger or at least a whole bunch of attitude. I can do without all that, even if I make less money each month.

The fact of the matter is that communities such as this one make up a shrinking percentage of my sales, yet still dominate my time by an overwhelming majority. And sadly, almost all of that time is spent on "tech support", as the trucks themselves do not take much time to tune.

In contrast, none of the above happens with the newer platforms I work on, regardless of what software I use. More than ever, I find I have to pick my battles....It is better for a multitude of reasons to shift towards in-person tuning for these older platforms where the support is less, and the vehicles themselves are more finicky.

Within the last few weeks, I have had a previous issue return where my tune files sent over email were being corrupted and affecting fuel trims. Basically , when a closed loop tune is sent, the truck will learn an initial value and "freeze" in place. This skews fueling. When you try to get around it with open loop, the fuel trim values (which in OL should be 0'd out) are still there. SCT and I originally traced it back to both bad X3 firmware and a localized corruption issue on my laptop, a year ago, but after months of zero issues it has returned. I've swapped laptops again (1200.00 out the window) for the sole purpose of trying to remedy this issue, and so far, no joy. Between the original occurrence 2 years ago and now, I have hundreds of hours invested not to mention numerous calls/emails with Aldo, Rudy Benn and Scott Barbour from SCT trying to rectify this issue. I do not know if the other tuners that do these platforms have these issues- frankly, I do not care.

Thus far it would appear that the problem does not exist if I am loading the tunes via my interface instead of how you, the customer , would do so via the Device Updater program.

For all of the reasons mentioned above, it is time for me to change how I conduct my business. I will still happily tune these trucks, the condition will now just be in person, preferably on the dyno. I am already aware this is going to piss off alot of people that somehow think I owe them something , but, after 5 years of slaving away, it is time for me to put my well being first.

arro222
03-04-2017, 04:27 PM
So here's the deal guys. *Editing in progress*

I am at the point where it no longer is effective for me to tune these trucks, in volume, over email. That's not to say it isn't profitable- i have had a great deal of success with it- but with the phone and the FB and so on going off constantly because people do not grasp what is entailed in email tuning has been a major factor in not only my personal life, but my health as well.


One of the downsides to having a small business is that people tend to overlook the fact that I am not open 24/7. The more time I spend on the phone, on FB, on emails, etc, the less time I get to spend on the tuning. The volume of work I get is already enough to where I feel my time is limited- so managing that window I have is crucial.
Beyond that- and this might be because of my shift towards being more Facebook-centric in my focus- the younger generation of owners that is now modifying these trucks seem to have a growing sense of entitlement. There is a certain expectation of the sun and the moon, and when you have to abbreviate the conversation to move on to other tasks, one is met with anger or at least a whole bunch of attitude. I can do without all that, even if I make less money each month.

Within the last few weeks, I have had a previous issue return where my tune files sent over email were being corrupted and affecting fuel trims. Basically , when a closed loop tune is sent, the truck will learn an initial value and "freeze" in place. This skews fueling. When you try to get around it with open loop, the fuel trim values (which in OL should be 0'd out) are still there. SCT and I originally traced it back to both bad X3 firmware and a localized corruption issue on my laptop, a year ago, but after months of zero issues it has returned. I've swapped laptops again (1200.00 out the window) for the sole purpose of trying to remedy this issue, and so far, no joy. Between the original occurrence 2 years ago and now, I have hundreds of hours invested not to mention numerous calls/emails with Aldo, Rudy Benn and Scott Barbour from SCT trying to rectify this issue. I do not know if the other tuners that do these platforms have these issues- frankly, I do not care.

Thus far it would appear that the problem does not exist if I am loading the tunes via my interface instead of how you, the customer , would do so via the Device Updater program.

Thanks Ryan. I understand nothing you said except it's a bitch to tune email wise. What I can't grasp is everyone uses a different cam, heads, intakes so how does the standard loaded SCT interface (that's a big word for me) for these additional bolt ons apply with differentiated cams, heads and intakes? Does it help you to know in advance the exact specs of the bolt ons or is it still a trial and error thing no matter what. I'm just stupid about this stuff but I'm still trying to think of possible ways where I can make your load easier.

Filthy Filbert
03-04-2017, 04:40 PM
There are still some other options...... Mine is done by Chris at pie and gets tons of abuse, keeps getting faster, and has for a few years now. I also hear Marty Fletcher is pretty good. Hopefully someone can ad anyone thats good that Im missing?


I wouldn't let either of them tune my truck if they paid me to let them. One was run off/out of the 'club' for crap work. He's come back after a lot of the OGd have left, so now the new guys think he's this new guy on the scene. The other has about a 50% customer approval rating. For every satisfied customer in the club, there's one who feels like they got had--his number one proponent in the club is going stand-alone. What's that say about his tuning abilities?

FlyinRyan
03-04-2017, 04:47 PM
Thanks Ryan. I understand nothing you said except it's a bitch to tune email wise. What I can't grasp is everyone uses a different cam, heads, intakes so how does the standard loaded SCT interface (that's a big word for me) for these additional bolt ons apply with differentiated cams, heads and intakes? Does it help you to know in advance the exact specs of the bolt ons or is it still a trial and error thing no matter what. I'm just stupid about this stuff but I'm still trying to think of possible ways where I can make your load easier.

Because there are so many different combinations of throttle bodies, camshafts, intake manifolds , cylinder heads, port volume /valve size, once you get past bolt ons (or bolt ons with a SMALL cam), there is really no way to have a "one tune solution" past that point. Not to mention you are dealing with 15-20 year old trucks with unknown condition fuel systems, short blocks, etc etc.

I have a standard "heads/cam" tune that I use as a baseline, but I've seen it be anywhere from dead-on, to requiring major revising on a truck I did recently.

Myself and Todd Ognibene have spent an ABSURD amount of time trying to simplify the process. There isn't one. People don't read and they do not listen. So, I am changing my business model accordingly.

Filthy Filbert
03-04-2017, 04:47 PM
Thanks Ryan. I understand nothing you said except it's a bitch to tune email wise. What I can't grasp is everyone uses a different cam, heads, intakes so how does the standard loaded SCT interface (that's a big word for me) for these additional bolt ons apply with differentiated cams, heads and intakes? Does it help you to know in advance the exact specs of the bolt ons or is it still a trial and error thing no matter what. I'm just stupid about this stuff but I'm still trying to think of possible ways where I can make your load easier.

Just like when you tune with a carb, you dial it in. You can't take a carb from one engine, slap it on another and expect it to be perfect. You have to retune for that combo.

krs1r/t
03-04-2017, 05:19 PM
It must be, I have yet to see "the other tuners" get the tunes right..........
Everyone knows who tuned my truck and I had no complaints. It was one of the largest solid roller cams I've seen in these motors. It was spot on.

Me and you talking here Chad, "tuners" especially with our trucks get hacked up junk to tune. O2 sensors 12 years old, wide band o2's are old and shot. Injectors old as hell not firing correctly, intake and exhaust leaks. And when the tune is off it is all the tuners fault.


Why do you think he's selling his SCT?
Funny you should say that snowflake. I bought bigstuff3 cause I wanted to. And Chris at pie is still gonna tune it. So I'm not sure where you were going with this.

slammedR/T
03-04-2017, 05:38 PM
I won't get into this pissing match as everyone already knows where I stand on these "other tuners" and I will leave it at that.

krs1r/t
03-04-2017, 05:58 PM
It must be, I have yet to see "the other tuners" get the tunes right..........


I won't get into this pissing match as everyone already knows where I stand on these "other tuners" and I will leave it at that.
Not asking you to, :biggthumpup:

slammedR/T
03-04-2017, 06:21 PM
I like turtles

Adobedude
03-04-2017, 08:50 PM
Like I've said....MANY TIMES before...

Chris nailed my FIRST 408 tune at WOT first try, dead nuts on....But getting it to idle was another thing. We tried this and that, he even stayed up till after midnight on his lap top while I made laps at the track and emailed him info, he would tweak the tune and send it back....I gave up and went to a carb, but it took a full season to run faster than Chris's first SCT tune.

Lot's of haters....If I was a Vendor I'd tell you guys to pound sand, like Ryan just did.

5857glendon
03-04-2017, 10:33 PM
I would drive my truck to you for a tune....I'm in Southern Ontario but love a good road trip!!!
So here's the deal guys. *Editing in progress*

I am at the point where it no longer is effective for me to tune these trucks, in volume, over email. That's not to say it isn't profitable- i have had a great deal of success with it- but with the phone and the FB and so on going off constantly because people do not grasp what is entailed in email tuning has been a major factor in not only my personal life, but my health as well.


One of the downsides to having a small business is that people tend to overlook the fact that I am not open 24/7. The more time I spend on the phone, on FB, on emails, etc, the less time I get to spend on the tuning. The volume of work I get is already enough to where I feel my time is limited- so managing that window I have is crucial.
Beyond that- and this might be because of my shift towards being more Facebook-centric in my focus- the younger generation of owners that is now modifying these trucks seem to have a growing sense of entitlement. There is a certain expectation of the sun and the moon, and when you have to abbreviate the conversation to move on to other tasks, one is met with anger or at least a whole bunch of attitude. I can do without all that, even if I make less money each month.

The fact of the matter is that communities such as this one make up a shrinking percentage of my sales, yet still dominate my time by an overwhelming majority. And sadly, almost all of that time is spent on "tech support", as the trucks themselves do not take much time to tune.

In contrast, none of the above happens with the newer platforms I work on, regardless of what software I use. More than ever, I find I have to pick my battles....It is better for a multitude of reasons to shift towards in-person tuning for these older platforms where the support is less, and the vehicles themselves are more finicky.

Within the last few weeks, I have had a previous issue return where my tune files sent over email were being corrupted and affecting fuel trims. Basically , when a closed loop tune is sent, the truck will learn an initial value and "freeze" in place. This skews fueling. When you try to get around it with open loop, the fuel trim values (which in OL should be 0'd out) are still there. SCT and I originally traced it back to both bad X3 firmware and a localized corruption issue on my laptop, a year ago, but after months of zero issues it has returned. I've swapped laptops again (1200.00 out the window) for the sole purpose of trying to remedy this issue, and so far, no joy. Between the original occurrence 2 years ago and now, I have hundreds of hours invested not to mention numerous calls/emails with Aldo, Rudy Benn and Scott Barbour from SCT trying to rectify this issue. I do not know if the other tuners that do these platforms have these issues- frankly, I do not care.

Thus far it would appear that the problem does not exist if I am loading the tunes via my interface instead of how you, the customer , would do so via the Device Updater program.

For all of the reasons mentioned above, it is time for me to change how I conduct my business. I will still happily tune these trucks, the condition will now just be in person, preferably on the dyno. I am already aware this is going to piss off alot of people that somehow think I owe them something , but, after 5 years of slaving away, it is time for me to put my well being first.

Filthy Filbert
03-04-2017, 10:46 PM
I was just talking to Ryan. Maybe a dyno day, tuning blitz in Ohio is in order.

wdh681
03-05-2017, 12:57 AM
That would be sweet!!!
I still don't have my heads and cam though. Still waiting on that 3k loan.....

PeteRT
03-05-2017, 01:50 AM
I was just talking to Ryan. Maybe a dyno day, tuning blitz in Ohio is in order.

That would be cool. Give me a reason to order the rest of my stuff and install it!

arro222
03-05-2017, 12:59 PM
Just like when you tune with a carb, you dial it in. You can't take a carb from one engine, slap it on another and expect it to be perfect. You have to retune for that combo.

Now that's something I can understand. Thanks Tom.
I look at this electronic tune thing with big , starry eyed, "it's magical" attitude. Sort of like the first time I ate a cereal called "Sugar Jets" back in the early 50's. They showed a commercial of the kid flying around after his first bite. I insisted my mother hold the back door open just incase before I ate the stuff.

arro222
03-05-2017, 01:01 PM
Like I've said....MANY TIMES before...

Chris nailed my FIRST 408 tune at WOT first try, dead nuts on....But getting it to idle was another thing. We tried this and that, he even stayed up till after midnight on his lap top while I made laps at the track and emailed him info, he would tweak the tune and send it back....I gave up and went to a carb, but it took a full season to run faster than Chris's first SCT tune.

Lot's of haters....If I was a Vendor I'd tell you guys to pound sand, like Ryan just did.

Holy crap Dave with all this "stuff" going on, I'd open my engine bay and give my carburetor a big hug.

Filthy Filbert
03-05-2017, 01:29 PM
Now that's something I can understand. Thanks Tom.
I look at this electronic tune thing with big , starry eyed, "it's magical" attitude. Sort of like the first time I ate a cereal called "Sugar Jets" back in the early 50's. They showed a commercial of the kid flying around after his first bite. I insisted my mother hold the back door open just incase before I ate the stuff.


Tuning is tuning. Finding the right timing and fuel delivery that the engine wants. Technology doesn't change that. Computer EFI just gives you more control, more adjustability than a carb with mechanical spark advance in the distributor. Nothing to get glossy eyed about.

madboy
03-05-2017, 01:35 PM
The most civil poop flinging ever here - good job guys :biggthumpup:

I fully appreciate and understand where Ryan is coming from and am looking forward to a tune for my Scat pack someday. :rockwoot:

I hope the tune you sent me for the Truck last summer didn't get corrupted....but I wouldn't know because my slacker butt hasn't loaded it yet :dumbass234:

Hatchman
03-05-2017, 02:02 PM
Totally understand Ryan's point of view. Lots of time spent on an aging platform with "entitlement" generation for not a lot of return.

I dropped my order for X3/custom tune at the end of January to jump on the band wagon and get grandfathered in as well. Haven't heard from Ryan yet, but I know he's busy and swamped with orders. The M1 is still at the powder coater, so no big hurry and I'm not worried. Leaking beer keg has been on for there 14 years so a few more weeks won't matter.

arro222
03-05-2017, 02:25 PM
Tuning is tuning. Finding the right timing and fuel delivery that the engine wants. Technology doesn't change that. Computer EFI just gives you more control, more adjustability than a carb with mechanical spark advance in the distributor. Nothing to get glossy eyed about.

Cheez Tom, don't wreck it for me. Did somebody tell you there was no Santa when you were 3? It's fucking magical I tell ya! You know, sort of like when the caveman discovered fire. (and at the same time discovered to drag their women by the hair instead of the feet so they wouldn't get filled up with dirt.)

Filthy Filbert
03-05-2017, 03:34 PM
Just helping you with those spongebob eyes

slammedR/T
03-06-2017, 10:24 PM
The most civil poop flinging ever here - good job guys :biggthumpup:

I fully appreciate and understand where Ryan is coming from and am looking forward to a tune for my Scat pack someday. :rockwoot:

I hope the tune you sent me for the Truck last summer didn't get corrupted....but I wouldn't know because my slacker butt hasn't loaded it yet :dumbass234:

Funny how when I'm not attacked I keep a calm mello attitude with my discussions.......

Maybe, just maybe I was falsely banned 20 times in the past by some giant douche canoes......... maybe :finger:

Filthy Filbert
03-06-2017, 10:56 PM
Meh. It was probably deserved. :finger::jester:

slammedR/T
03-07-2017, 12:06 AM
Meh. It was probably deserved. :finger::jester:

You prolly right....... :stirringthepot:

Filthy Filbert
03-07-2017, 01:03 AM
You prolly right....... :stirringthepot:

Da fuq is next? A Y-code owning club president?

slammedR/T
03-07-2017, 01:59 AM
Da fuq is next? A Y-code owning club president?

Whoa sir, them fight'en words!!!

Hugh Jassole
03-09-2017, 01:52 AM
There are still some other options...... Mine is done by Chris at pie and gets tons of abuse, keeps getting faster, and has for a few years now. I also hear Marty Fletcher is pretty good. Hopefully someone can ad anyone thats good that Im missing?

I know I'll catch shit for this, but I have to agree. Chris did my new trans and the tune, and the truck has never run better. He's doing the Hemi build I have in the works for this summer too. That being said, I like Jay Greene's tunes better for my hemi. I think a lot of this comes from building a relationship with a vendor, communication is key. That comes from time spent. You can use the same parts in 2 trucks, and neither will react exactly the same. Same in the hemi world. It's been seen here and on the old Delphi board. Save the flame, I'm not in the mood. blah, blah, blah.....

slammedR/T
03-09-2017, 01:57 AM
I like big bewbs!!

Hugh Jassole
03-09-2017, 01:59 AM
I like big bewbs!!

there's something we all can agree upon :biggthumpup:

SnipeRT
03-09-2017, 03:09 AM
I think a lot of this comes from building a relationship with a vendor, communication is key.

I wouldn't know, but I assume this to be true. It's worrying to think about trying to establish such a relationship while one end is evolving away. I have NO DOUBT that I'll be 100% pleased with the outcome though... :burnout:

mikset
03-09-2017, 03:22 AM
I hate to see another great vendor bale on us but I can see why. I turned to Ryan when my last tune / tuner wasn't working out. I think the biggest problem was he (my first tuner) lost his motivation tuning these trucks and I know he had his reasons for that. I have to say when I first got this engine built, he worked very hard and helped me through several issues.

Ryan worked his tail off and got my tune nailed down. There were some issues on my end and he really helped me figure it out. He defiantly went above and beyond. I'm really glad he's still willing to work with existing customers.

I have absolutely nothing negative to say about PIE as I have never dealt with them. I think any vendor we still have we'd better treat them well and be grateful or we're all going to be returning our shit to stock because there's nowhere else to go. :idunno:

Well, I guess we could always throw a carbed small block chebby in our trucks or some shit. :dumbass234:

Motorhead
03-27-2017, 08:26 PM
Tuning is tuning. Finding the right timing and fuel delivery that the engine wants. Technology doesn't change that. Computer EFI just gives you more control, more adjustability than a carb with mechanical spark advance in the distributor. Nothing to get glossy eyed about.
No two engines are ever exactly the same from day one even when brand new. Compression, cam timing, injector timing and ignition timing will vary some right out of the box. So then adding bolt ons, age and wear & tear into the equation just adds to it.

StreetSleepinR/T
03-30-2017, 03:00 AM
I am new to the R/T world but not building motors and having something tuned. I LUSTED for a nice R/T for about 2 years before making it a reality. Bad on my part was not looking at how the parts supplies were diminished for the magnum series of mopars. I told myself thats fine, ill put the money in it, enjoy building it, and have something I'm proud of. Not just "store bought" hp, but an expression of what I wanted exactly in a performance vehicle. From the looks of things you were the mac Ryan. I followed the forum and some guys in it and all said "FlyinRyan" tune. I personally trusted Ryan's tunes without even getting one. Can someone tell me if this is the end? I don't want to lose this R/T, but I really don't wanna go further if the damn thing can't be tuned by someone who can actually get it right. Someone make me feel better. Please.

Motorhead
03-30-2017, 04:29 AM
I am new to the R/T word........blah blah blah blah.....Someone make me feel better. Please.

Drive or trailer the truck to Ryan on the west side of Houston and get it Dyno tuned. I used to do the same thing with Harleys on a Dynojet 250i. It is the best way without doubt.

Or get a second pcm and mail it to Ryan.

If all else fails, Dave will tell you what to do.

Filthy Filbert
03-30-2017, 01:10 PM
He will still come to you to tune in person. You can still go to him to tune in person. And on a very, very limited basis, he may tune you remotely. But that's between you and him. Don't hold your breath for a remote tune though. You need to essentially prove your worth and that you're not an idiot who saw fast n furious and now you want a nawz turbo.


There's always stand alone tuning like MS, and ryan may be willing to consult you as you self tune, provided you give him a small consulting fee

krs1r/t
03-30-2017, 01:15 PM
I am new to the R/T world but not building motors and having something tuned. I LUSTED for a nice R/T for about 2 years before making it a reality. Bad on my part was not looking at how the parts supplies were diminished for the magnum series of mopars. I told myself thats fine, ill put the money in it, enjoy building it, and have something I'm proud of. Not just "store bought" hp, but an expression of what I wanted exactly in a performance vehicle. From the looks of things you were the mac Ryan. I followed the forum and some guys in it and all said "FlyinRyan" tune. I personally trusted Ryan's tunes without even getting one. Can someone tell me if this is the end? I don't want to lose this R/T, but I really don't wanna go further if the damn thing can't be tuned by someone who can actually get it right. Someone make me feel better. Please.

It's not the end of the world. Lmao, I never have been tooned by Ryan.