Intercoolers

[Lederip]

Who makes a liquid to Air intercooler that fits a Dakota R/T?
Ken

[BTLFED R/T]

Who makes a liquid to Air intercooler that fits a Dakota R/T?
Ken

Not me!

When did you get here, Kenny?!

Welcome to the forum, belated! LOL

Jason

[Sick 660r]

gsm used to make one but they discontinued it. Ive been thinking about making my own and putting it where the battery is.

[99blackrt]

GSM used to have them made up by an external company. I've been trying to get in contact with them about getting some more made up.

[Lederip]

Not me!

When did you get here, Kenny?!

Welcome to the forum, belated! LOL

Jason

hi Jason

I've been around :troll:

[Lederip]

GSM used to have them made up by an external company. I've been trying to get in contact with them about getting some more made up.
Only contact I have so far is bellintercoolers.com They say they will custom make one for $800-900.

[Supercharged408]

Who makes a liquid to Air intercooler that fits a Dakota R/T?
Ken

Hey Kenny, I got the same problem! Right now, that is the ONE item that I think may hold me up for sure. We will probably make it from scratch out of some a/w cores and piping it into the cab where the HVAC unit was. We should talk about it this weekend, maybe get some bulk cores and build em up.

[WhiteRT]

Only contact I have so far is bellintercoolers.com They say they will custom make one for $800-900.

Ken.....

Turbonetics/Spearco is the ones who made the two cores for GSM..... ;-)

You may want to call and talk to a guy named Darrel if he is still there and pick his brain on how to get one....

Let me know how this goes for you if you decide to contact them....

Todd

[White Turbo]

Who makes a liquid to Air intercooler that fits a Dakota R/T?
Ken

Hi Ken,

There really isn't a "one size fits all" intercooler for our trucks due to the different lay outs and configurations of superchargers and turbochargers.

You can get cores from Precision or Spearco and fab up the inlet and outlet yourself.
I have a precision PT-600 A/W for my turbo (single core),,, good for 600 hp.
TTi fabbed it up to fit my truck.

[WhiteRT]

Hi Ken,

There really isn't a "one size fits all" intercooler for our trucks due to the different lay outs and configurations of superchargers and turbochargers.

You can get cores from Precision or Spearco and fab up the inlet and outlet yourself.
I have a precision PT-600 A/W for my turbo (single core),,, good for 600 hp.
TTi fabbed it up to fit my truck.

Spearco/Turbonetics has blueprinted cores to work with vortech/powerdyne/paxton ..... just have to figure out how to order one....those are the cores that GSM was having made....they have a 600hp version and a 1000hp version - 1000hp version requires you move the moisture canister for the AC the 600hp version is a bolt up....

Todd

[Duner]

I made this one from a 1200hp core. CBE air/water intercooler/airhat. The blowoff valve is in the upper LH corner and is welded directly to the intercooler. I used studs to mount the throttle body, added long threaded stock and then bolt the airhat/intercooler directly to those. It absolutly makes a positive seal against the throttle body and makes sure that nothing moves at all. The intercooler is heavy though, especially when it's full of water. You can see the front support strut coming from next to the alternator to support the weight and make sure there's no movement.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BlackDogCBE.jpg

I had plans of fabbing up more of them to fit the Vortech and Paxton blower setups - but I haven't had the time. I have two of those cores sitting under one of my workbenches in the garage just waiting to find the time.

I made this intercooler/airhat to work with the Vortech originally - this pic is obviously with the turbo, but the Vortech charge tube/elbow goes to it directly.

http://members.cox.net/duner/Turbo/RT/BlackDogTurbo.jpg

It's smaller but was still super effective.

[BryanRT360]

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BlackDogCBE.jpg
Drool! Badass!!!

[Lederip]

Hey Kenny, I got the same problem! Right now, that is the ONE item that I think may hold me up for sure. We will probably make it from scratch out of some a/w cores and piping it into the cab where the HVAC unit was. We should talk about it this weekend, maybe get some bulk cores and build em up.

Your needs are about double of what I need. I thought about an in the cab cooler but it sounds like overkill for Me. We will get something worked out this weekend.

[Lederip]

Ken.....

Turbonetics/Spearco is the ones who made the two cores for GSM..... ;-)

You may want to call and talk to a guy named Darrel if he is still there and pick his brain on how to get one....

Let me know how this goes for you if you decide to contact them....

Todd

Thanks Todd, I'll see if I can get in touch Darrel. Hopefully they have the GSM design still laying around.
Ken

[Lederip]

Hi Ken,

There really isn't a "one size fits all" intercooler for our trucks due to the different lay outs and configurations of superchargers and turbochargers.

You can get cores from Precision or Spearco and fab up the inlet and outlet yourself.
I have a precision PT-600 A/W for my turbo (single core),,, good for 600 hp.
TTi fabbed it up to fit my truck.

Thanks Ed,

Your truck is impressive, I like all of the one-off Fab work. I hoping the intercooler is somthing I can just bolt in with a little Fab work.
Ken

[Lederip]

Ken.....

Turbonetics/Spearco is the ones who made the two cores for GSM..... ;-)

You may want to call and talk to a guy named Darrel if he is still there and pick his brain on how to get one....

Let me know how this goes for you if you decide to contact them....

Todd

Darrel is no more, he left Turbonetics. They are searching for the old GSM drawings. Said they would call me back with the info.
Ken

[Mopar318]

Duner, whats just a plain core like that cost?

[Duner]

I would be willing to sell them for $275 each + shipping.

I'm heading off to work now, but I can take some pics of the cores when I get home tonight if anybody is interested.

[WhiteRT]

Darrel is no more, he left Turbonetics. They are searching for the old GSM drawings. Said they would call me back with the info.
Ken

Good deal Ken....sorry I couldnt be of more help :goodluck:

[Sick 660r]

I would be willing to sell them for $275 each + shipping.

I'm heading off to work now, but I can take some pics of the cores when I get home tonight if anybody is interested.

What exactly would you be selling? Your current kit?

[Mopar318]

What exactly would you be selling? Your current kit?

Thats for a bare core.

[Aves]

Really like the looks of the smaller one. Would work perfect for the vortech :hail:

Troy

[Sick 660r]

Thats for a bare core.

A core that is designed to fit in our engine bay? If so all I would need is piping, tank, lines, fan/radiator, and pump?

[Heavy D]

One of GMS sperco intercoolers is based on this one.
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/Library/images/products/large/2-230.jpg
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/products/index.php?products_id=89&category_id=10
Instead of the inlet air coming in was modified to a different angle.
http://people.delphiforums.com/aheavyd/Durango/engine,07,net.JPG

[Sick 660r]

One of GMS sperco intercoolers is based on this one.
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/Library/images/products/large/2-230.jpg
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/products/index.php?products_id=89&category_id=10
Instead of the inlet air coming in was modified to a different angle.
http://people.delphiforums.com/aheavyd/Durango/engine,07,net.JPG

Where did you get that cog belt conversion?!?!

[bad360rt]

Where did you get that cog belt conversion?!?!

That was another GSM deal, I think only three were made. There's places that already sell the cog pullies for the Paxton, you'd just have to get a custom crank pulley done.

[Mopar318]

A core that is designed to fit in our engine bay? If so all I would need is piping, tank, lines, fan/radiator, and pump?

You would have to make your end tanks, and brackets. Bare cores usually come with no end tanks. either way you would have to modify or make your own to fit correctly. Which means big money to pay a tig welder. (hint hint.:D)

[Duner]

http://www.turboneticsinc.com/Library/images/products/large/2-230.jpg

The intercoolers I have are the same dimensions, and do include the end tanks, but they both face the same direction. For my intercooler/airhat, I just removed one of the ends and added the airhat section.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BDturboCBE.jpg

[Sick 660r]

The intercoolers I have are the same dimensions, and do include the end tanks, but they both face the same direction. For my intercooler/airhat, I just removed one of the ends and added the airhat section.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BDturboCBE.jpg

so from the right side of the intercooler to the tb is all open space? If so why did you not go with piping insted of all that open space? Im probably not explaining my question very well lol

[Sick 660r]

That was another GSM deal, I think only three were made. There's places that already sell the cog pullies for the Paxton, you'd just have to get a custom crank pulley done.

damn, GSM had some good stuff back in the day. Do you know of anybody that would be able to make the crank pully?

[Duner]

I thought restricting the airflow back down to a single 3.5" diameter opening, thru a hose and then back out to the 5.25" opening of the TB would be counter productive. This way the intercooler water is still pulling heat out of the TB itself and also the intake manifold. This way there are no restrictions between the turbo and the throttle bores of the TB. When you are driving it normally and park, you can open the hood and the intercooler, TB and top half of the intake manifold is cold.

[Heavy D]

We did the clog belt ourselfs. It's not from GMS.
We just redid it to fit this in. Procharger F1R, 2000cfm's
http://people.delphiforums.com/aheavyd/Durango/procharger%20sc%20001.jpg
Pic of the new clog set up
http://people.delphiforums.com/aheavyd/Durango/procharger%20sc%20006.jpg

I'm cutting the intake down now to make a new adapter to fit a Aceel 2000 TB at the moment. I want to keep it under the hood.

Might have to build a new intercooler for more air flow. The 4 1/2 thick sytle intercoolers can handle 1500 cfms

[Sick 660r]

We did the clog belt ourselfs. It's not from GMS.
We just redid it to fit this in. Procharger F1R, 2000cfm's
http://people.delphiforums.com/aheavyd/Durango/procharger%20sc%20001.jpg
Pic of the new clog set up
http://people.delphiforums.com/aheavyd/Durango/procharger%20sc%20006.jpg

I'm cutting the intake down now to make a new adapter to fit a Aceel 2000 TB at the moment. I want to keep it under the hood.

Might have to build a new intercooler for more air flow. The 4 1/2 thick sytle intercoolers can handle 1500 cfms

Have you thought about making it for other people? If so how much? and what about the crank pully?

[Lederip]

I would be willing to sell them for $275 each + shipping.

I'm heading off to work now, but I can take some pics of the cores when I get home tonight if anybody is interested.

Hey Duner,

I'm interested in buying a core from you. Could you send me pictures and/or the dimensions of the core. lederip@comcast.net

Ken

[Duner]

Hey Duner,

I'm interested in buying a core from you. Could you send me pictures and/or the dimensions of the core. lederip@comcast.net

Ken

The intercoolers are 16" wide x 10" deep x 4.5" thick with 3" inlet/outlets for the air and 3/8" NPT for the water inlet/outlets. The actual cores themselves without the tanks are 9" x 10" x 4.5". They are listed as being capable of cooling 1500 hp worth of boost, but I think they're probably more like 1200 hp. All I know for sure is that they work fantastic at cooling 700 hp worth of air.

$275 = Shipping, and they are heavy. :D

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/AWICtop.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/AWICfront.jpg

[Lederip]

Thanks Duner,

I thought you were selling just the core. The whole intercooler with the side tanks should work out better. I'll be customizing :burnout: it to fit my Vortech and Air exstream Air Hat. How do you want the Money?
Shipped to: 48173 Rockwood Mi.

How did you support it ? intake bolts.

[Duner]

Thanks Duner,

How did you support it ? intake bolts.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/stirlgirl/DUNER/BlackDogCBE.jpg

You can see the front support bracket in this picture. It attaches to the side of the accessories mount - just below the right side of the alternator in this pic. And then since the airhat is part of it, the whole thing is bolted to the throttle body with the 4 bolts you see at the top right. The intercooler also comes with mounting bolt bungs that can be welded to the intercooler wherever they need to be.

I'll get a quote for the shipping.

[Lederip]

Duner,

Got home from work and did some measuring, Thats a big intercooler!! My outlet from the blower is a lot closer then the Turbo outlet and I have no room for a turn into the Intercooler inlet. I'm not sure if I cut the air boxes off and started over that I could do it. Also running a Shaker makes everything tougher. It looks like a tight fit for that core alone. I only have 10" from the throttle body centerline to the Supercharger outlet. It looks like I'll have to use a smaller core. damm, sorry to waste your time
Ken

[Duner]

I completely understand. That's also how I came to the design I have now.

[Supercharged408]

I completely understand. That's also how I came to the design I have now.

Hey Duner, I will take it if Kenny doesnt want it, how many do you have?

[Duner]

I have two of them.

I really wish I could get the time to build them as CBE intercooler/airhats, but there's not much chance of that lately.

[bad360rt]

We did the clog belt ourselfs. It's not from GMS.
We just redid it to fit this in. Procharger F1R, 2000cfm's

I'm cutting the intake down now to make a new adapter to fit a Aceel 2000 TB at the moment. I want to keep it under the hood.

Might have to build a new intercooler for more air flow. The 4 1/2 thick sytle intercoolers can handle 1500 cfms

My bad, I knew Scott did a cog setup on his Paxton, and one for Ron Merx, thought you were part of that deal too.

That F1R is fucking badass!!! I can't wait to see how it runs with that monster on there, definitely keep us posted on the progress! :biggthumpup:

[lucky13]

another company that does the a/w kits are www.frozenboost.com

[dakfink]

I completely understand. That's also how I came to the design I have now.

Duner,

If you still have the 2 Intercoolers Call me ASAP!!!!

254-319-3280 anytime.

Consider them sold!!!!!!! I will Buy them just tell me where and how you want the money sent!!!!!

[dakfink]

Only contact I have so far is bellintercoolers.com They say they will custom make one for $800-900.

That's Not far from me here in San Antonio!!!!

I'll have to go check them out!!!! If Duner has sold the 2 he has??!!

[dakfink]

Sold! Sold! Sold!!

I talked to Duner last night and will be sending the Moneys today!!!!

[DodgeSqD]

DAM DAM DAM . I need an Innercooler !. Just Dynoed the truck last friday . with stock heads she pulled 410 Hp / 430 TQ with 12.23 boost . The intake charge temp must be 200 * or more . Do you want to sell one ?
Larry

[dakfink]

Not gonna sell these!!! They are both being used.

Talk to Dunerhe might be able to get you one.

[DodgeSqD]

That was Quick !
Thanks for your help.
Larry

[lucky13]

did anybody notice the link i posted? www.frozenboost.com there prices are really reasonable

[DodgeSqD]

Thanks for the link :rockwoot:
Looks like Duner modified one of these to fit his truck .
There prices are really good .Larry

[BluRT00]

Thanks for the link :rockwoot:
Looks like Duner modified one of these to fit his truck .
There prices are really good .Larry

Hmmm Larry, what are you gonna run for cooling? I still like Methanol injection, but the intercooler route is more fail safe. The website that was posted seems to have a nice setup. Price wise would run around the same as if I went with Methanol Dan

[Lederip]

DAM DAM DAM . I need an Innercooler !. Just Dynoed the truck last friday . with stock heads she pulled 410 Hp / 430 TQ with 12.23 boost . The intake charge temp must be 200 * or more . Do you want to sell one ?
Larry

Wait a couple of weeks. I had one made for the Dakota by bellintercooler. Its a direct boltin for a Dakota with a Vortech, I'll post Pic. I already paid for design cost.
Ken

[DodgeSqD]

Hey Dan
No meth injection at this time for me .
First I want an intercooler , Then tune it again .
If i need meth after that ,Then I want to see your set up.
Larry

[DodgeSqD]

Thanks Ken
Is this set up water to air ?
I assume this will fit under your shaker hood ?
Will you need to clock your discharge on the Vortec?
Sorry for all the questions .
I would still like to see you specs on your truck .cam, heads ,ect.
Here is my Email rohr_e@bellsouth.net
Larry

[Mopar318]

I got a air-air intercooler from frozen boost. Its just a bare care with cast end-tanks. No brackets or anything.

It is really nice actually, the quality seems to be just as good as a spearco or similar. I cut off the in/outs, welded on 90's to go under the truck, then just welded small aluminum tabs to mount to the rad support.

[99blackrt]

Darrel is no more, he left Turbonetics. They are searching for the old GSM drawings. Said they would call me back with the info.
Ken

Ken,

Any word back from them on the a/w intercooler they used to make for GSM?

[Lederip]

Ken,

Any word back from them on the a/w intercooler they used to make for GSM?

Call Turbonetic a couple of times and asked if they had the old GSM drawings around. Both times they didn't return my calls. They didn't seem too interested in designing anything for me. Went with Bell Intercoolers. What a great bunch of people to work with. They built me a fantastic Intercooler.

Give Gerhard a call at bellintercooler.com.

[mtlcafan79]

http://www.bellintercoolers.com/ is the correct addy there.

[Lederip]

http://www.bellintercoolers.com/ is the correct addy there.

Yep I forgot the s:hail: