need cam help quick!!!!

[slvr03dakrt]

Well I have talked to a few guys about cams but i am still undecided on what to go on. I was recomended a 228@50int. 232@.50 ext. with .565 and .566 lift cut on a 113lsa. Would this cam still be able to run daily on a pcm flash.

[Special Ed's R/T - Yaaaay]

Well I have talked to a few guys about cams but i am still undecided on what to go on. I was recomended a 228@50int. 232@.50 ext. with .565 and .566 lift cut on a 113lsa. Would this cam still be able to run daily on a pcm flash.

that one should be ok

[rattler360]

im running a 220/232 578/570 112lsa in my 360

[slvr03dakrt]

do you have any vacum issues with that cam in a 360

[rattler360]

im running rhoads lifters so no

[mtlcafan79]

IIRC, his cam is still in a box. I wouldn't want to run that much cam in a stock 360 that you drove all the time for sure.

I'm more of a fan of keeping the duration lower for tire burning torque. I don't go to the strip very often and prefer to have the truck not lug at 2000rpm because OD kicked in and locked the convertor on me. My TKO truck will pull without lugging down to nearly 1500rpm with a 210 cam. My 408 lugs down low when the convertor locks in third and when it's in OD too early. It has a cam somewhere near 228/236 or so. Different people have told me different things on the duration, but it's up there either way. I wouldn't cam yours up that much, especially if it's a daily. That's just me though. Dave, KJ, Danno, and others cam their's way up. They are more biased towards that race car that you drive on the street thing though.

You can run that much cam, but it will definitely need some sorta flash. My 408 will throw CEL's if it's too lean at idle and sometimes the brakes are a bit mushy if you don't build any vacuum in the reservoirs first. On the other hand, the TKO truck boils tires like it is its job. 365 ft/lbs on that, but it tops at 304 rwhp. It's no track machine, but it's a blast light to light which is how I drive it most all of the time. You are camming up for a track machine there. It's gonna need some convertor to get that cam rolling light to light. That's just my $0.02 though. It's all what you want out of it and what you can tolerate as "streetable".

[slvr03dakrt]

yea i know i'm going to have to have my computer reflashed for the 408.

[mtlcafan79]

Get an SCT tuner. It beat my B&G 408 flash hands down.

[slvr03dakrt]

thats alot of $$ I don't have right now but i may look into sometime in the future for sure.

[rattler360]

for you info th cam was installed last week, and im running a 3200 rpm stall

[slvr03dakrt]

so do you recomend those lifters. B/c i think that is going to be the deciding factor on wether or not i can run this cam on the street.

[rattler360]

duner uses them, the are noisey but the work, im running a fairly big cam, speced out by scott brown, but in most circles a 220 cam isnt very large, but you will need a reflash

[mtlcafan79]

How's it run?

[rattler360]

well its a definate improvement over the stock cam,esprcially with the extrudehoned and ported m1, and ported eddy heads. its pretty agressive, around town feels good, waiting to go to the track in a week or so.

[GrimRT]

so do you recomend those lifters. B/c i think that is going to be the deciding factor on wether or not i can run this cam on the street.

You would be better off with a 210/220 .512/.512 112 and run 1.7 rockers.

[rattler360]

i would do more research if i were you, decided what you actually want from the truck, i talked to soo many people before i decided on mine, you want something that works good as a combo, cam, stall, gears etc.

[slvr03dakrt]

You would be better off with a 210/220 .512/.512 112 and run 1.7 rockers.I think that cam may be a little small in a 408 won't it.

[rattler360]

i think soo, but thats just my view.

[Siciliano15]

well its a definate improvement over the stock cam,esprcially with the extrudehoned and ported m1, and ported eddy heads. its pretty agressive, around town feels good, waiting to go to the track in a week or so.

hey i didnt know u got all ur engine work done.... we should hang out i wanna hear how that thing sounds now. hows it running? is it throwing misfire codes? sunday may 18th im goin to e-town for the mopar nationals to race so u should meet me down there.

[rattler360]

im just sorting out the suspension waiting on the double adjustable qa-1s, so i can thrown on the hotchkis and kenny brown xbrace. im also swapping in a aluminum driveshaft. im busy that weekend of the 18 im promoting a benefit concert for a friend of mine who passed away, we are raising money for his kid.

[rattler360]

may is a busy month for me, i want to fine tune eveything before i take it to race.

[GrimRT]

I think that cam may be a little small in a 408 won't it.

It depends on what you want. It's all trade-offs, if you want to be more drivable, go with a smaller cam and bump up the lift with rockers. You're not going to want to rev the snot out of your 408 anyway. JMO, though.

[slvr03dakrt]

true i'm mainly looking for a cam with a powerband of 1800-5800or6000

[rattler360]

Give scott brown a call at VT engine techloogies, he was really helpful in specing mine out

[Siciliano15]

for the 408, you are gonna want more than a 210x cam. i have that in my 360 and it has loads of torque and power in the lows and mids. on a 408 you are going to want something around 220/230 534/544 112LSA

[360 XRT]

since were on the topics of cams,is there a cam made thats a step above the R/T+ 10 cam ? I'm looking to replace the stocker and i would be happy with the R/T + 10 cam,but for the price i'd like to go outside of mopar on this one.

[slvr03dakrt]

for the 408, you are gonna want more than a 210x cam. i have that in my 360 and it has loads of torque and power in the lows and mids. on a 408 you are going to want something around 220/230 534/544 112LSA
I was thinking something along those lines also but maybe just a touch bigger. I can go larger on my lift I got the heads set up for it.

[Siciliano15]

I was thinking something along those lines also but maybe just a touch bigger. I can go larger on my lift I got the heads set up for it.

yea cause i think without changing the pistons you would bottom out at anything more than 545 lift and the valve would hit the piston. thats what ive heard before.

[slvr03dakrt]

my pistons came with valve reliefs so i don't think that will be a problem.

[geo2slow4u]

Someone ran a 210x in a 408 with 1.7's. I think he made it to this board he doesn't post much. Yellow rc. He ran a 12.69 at 07 nats. He got into the low 11's on nitrous later on. He was running a cast mopar crank. I he had straight out the box eddies and 10.3 comp.. I think he was also running shorty headers and a small converter around 2500.

[slvr03dakrt]

hmmm thats good to know. I have an option to get a custom ground cam for a hell of a deal.